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MarkoH01: Well it is not and it is only done once you updated from Galaxy 1 to Galaxy 2 because it has to migrate the database structure. So my point stands - let it finish see how it goes and then decide ... if you really WANT a fair test that is.
It had already updated to Galaxy 2 yesterday, and as I already said, I had not installed any games using Galaxy 1, so exactly how big a database should I expect it to be updating? Without any games, it should have done a straight replacement of files, and the default setup should have been ready immediately to use.

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MarkoH01: So it wasn't the purpose of your experiement to see how Galaxy would run in case you would have to use. However you complaint about exactly that which makes my counter argument valid again. If it never was your purpose to see how Galaxy is running and if you could not care less why complaint about it?
Well while I wasn't specifically testing Galaxy, if I had to use it to get the file I mentioned, of course how well it works plays a part.

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MarkoH01: That's nonsense and you should know that. Migrating a database can take quite a while depending on the size and structure of the database - that is absolutely normal. If you aboort migration process before it is finished and expect the not finished database to work as it should the programmers are not to blame here.
Read my earlier response about what database. Should have been nothing to update, and default files should have been ready to go with an empty database.
Like I said, poor programming.
And even if you want to count getting my list of owned games and adding them to the database, like I said earlier, that doesn't have to be done immediately, and just the one game I was trying to install and then perhaps play, should have been added to the database in almost the blink of an eye.

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MarkoH01: Is there really anybody out there with less than 8GB of RAM (you should not run any Win OS with less than 8 if you want to have some fun)... anyway - that's all Galaxy is using - don't know which services you might also refer to.
You might be surprised, and like I said, my download PC is not my gaming PC. I don't do online gaming, so don't need to connect for games. Only need to connect to download the offline installers. But if they go, I was checking out what other avenue was available through GOG and Galaxy.

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MarkoH01: But there's no need to discuss this at all if it never was your intention to use Galaxy at all.
Read my last reply above. It was about using Galaxy if I had to ... no other choice scenario.
I want some way to get an offline installer file regardless. I don't want to be mucking around zipping and copying game folders. And of course your update files are extremely problematical in that scenario ... need some way to grab them too, especially if just a patch.
Post edited February 20, 2021 by Timboli
I just had a rare thought. GOG could learn from delta RPMs. Could unify the data for both galaxy and offline installers without a bunch of BS. GOG would actually save alot of space and bandwidth this way, and wouldn't have to do anything special to maintain the offline installers.
Offline installers are important for many linux users, so if the case is that offline installers get completely removed, that is a lot of the GoG community not buying games here anymore, which would be a really sad day for both linux and GoG.
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MarkoH01: Is there really anybody out there with less than 8GB of RAM (you should not run any Win OS with less than 8 if you want to have some fun)... anyway - that's all Galaxy is using - don't know which services you might also refer to.

But there's no need to discuss this at all if it never was your intention to use Galaxy at all.
In my experience, Windows 7 32 bit works fine with 4GB RAM. These days, you'd have to be a bit more conscious about it though: Not trying to play the latest games, don't keep 20 browser tabs open, etc... combine it with a fast enough HDD or SSD, and it should be a smooth experience. (it should be the same for W10 x32)

I couple of years ago, I had an HTPC with W7x32 and 2GB of RAM - it worked fine - for this very specific use case (playinf/organising/serving media, and nothing else).
Post edited February 21, 2021 by teceem
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MarkoH01: Is there really anybody out there with less than 8GB of RAM (you should not run any Win OS with less than 8 if you want to have some fun)...
*raises hand* 4 Gb, no dedicated graphics, Win 7 32-bit
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Gargoyled_Drake: Offline installers are important for many linux users
It’s actually even more than that: offline installers are the only way Linux games download is supported by GOG.

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MarkoH01: Is there really anybody out there with less than 8GB of RAM (you should not run any Win OS with less than 8 if you want to have some fun)...
I have two machines I mainly use to run games on, each having 3~4GB of RAM.
Of course, I do not run Windows on these (not that I would run it on any of my computers).
Post edited February 21, 2021 by vv221
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MarkoH01: Is there really anybody out there with less than 8GB of RAM (you should not run any Win OS with less than 8 if you want to have some fun)... anyway - that's all Galaxy is using - don't know which services you might also refer to.
2gb, 512mb of which goes to my GPU. That and consider that if you want to play a game, Galaxy's resource hogging will take resources away from that game. You can have 8gb, but if you have a background process constantly getting cycles that uses 6gb, you only have 2gb left for the OS and the like. Amazing what people gain simply from closing their browser.
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Gargoyled_Drake: Offline installers are important for many linux users, so if the case is that offline installers get completely removed, that is a lot of the GoG community not buying games here anymore, which would be a really sad day for both linux and GoG.
They won't remove it, just they give it maintance to the server but they keep coming, today I recived a couple of updates!
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MarkoH01: Is there really anybody out there with less than 8GB of RAM (you should not run any Win OS with less than 8 if you want to have some fun)... anyway - that's all Galaxy is using - don't know which services you might also refer to.
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kohlrak: 2gb, 512mb of which goes to my GPU. That and consider that if you want to play a game, Galaxy's resource hogging will take resources away from that game. You can have 8gb, but if you have a background process constantly getting cycles that uses 6gb, you only have 2gb left for the OS and the like. Amazing what people gain simply from closing their browser.
especially youtube and gog page uses a lot of cpu power
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MarkoH01: Is there really anybody out there with less than 8GB of RAM (you should not run any Win OS with less than 8 if you want to have some fun)... anyway - that's all Galaxy is using - don't know which services you might also refer to.
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kohlrak: 2gb, 512mb of which goes to my GPU. That and consider that if you want to play a game, Galaxy's resource hogging will take resources away from that game. You can have 8gb, but if you have a background process constantly getting cycles that uses 6gb, you only have 2gb left for the OS and the like. Amazing what people gain simply from closing their browser.
You are running a windows OS on 2GB? Wow! It must take ages until the PC has even finished booting (once witnessed this on a 4GB PC with WinXP and it was no fun).

@everybody who chimed in to tell me that my assumption was wrong - my apologies. Consider me surprised, I honestly did not expect that so many are still running with 4GB or even less.
Post edited February 21, 2021 by MarkoH01
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MarkoH01: You are running a windows OS on 2GB? Wow! It must take ages until the PC has even finished booting (once witnessed this on a 4GB PC witgh WinXP and it was no fun).
What are you talking about? There are plenty of embedded systems that run WindowXP on 2GB of RAM (or less) that boot and preform admirably. Slow boot times are usually not a problem related to the amount of available RAM, but with spinning rust/shoddy SSD support in XP.
Post edited February 21, 2021 by WinterSnowfall
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MarkoH01: You are running a windows OS on 2GB? Wow! It must take ages until the PC has even finished booting (once witnessed this on a 4GB PC witgh WinXP and it was no fun).
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WinterSnowfall: What are you talking about? There are plenty of embedded systems that run WindowXP on 2GB of RAM that boot and preform admirably. Slow boot times are usually not a problem related to the amount of available RAM, but with spinning rust/shoddy SSD support in XP.
It is a bit of both I'd say. If you have low amount of RAM you will have to use HDD a lot more - even when booting - maybe my mothers HDD (that's where I experienced this) was old as well but I am sure that the low amount of RAM did not help improve things. Also I forgot that SSDs probably will change this a lot (they weren't avaailable/affordable when I witnessed the slow booting above).
Post edited February 21, 2021 by MarkoH01
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MarkoH01: but I am sure that the low amount of RAM did not help improve things.
Adding more RAM to a system that has an under-performing HDD will not improve Windows boot times unless you are egregiously low on RAM (at or below minimum specs). It's an urban myth.

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MarkoH01: Also I forgot that SSDs probably will change this a lot
That's very likely indeed.
Post edited February 21, 2021 by WinterSnowfall
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MarkoH01: but I am sure that the low amount of RAM did not help improve things.
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WinterSnowfall: Adding more RAM to a system that has an under-performing HDD will not improve Windows boot times unless you are egregiously low on RAM (at or below minimum specs). It's an urban myth.
So you are telling me that Windows is not using virtual memory at all when booting?
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MarkoH01: So you are telling me that Windows is not using virtual memory at all when booting?
Not unless it has no other choice, in which case you are most likely below the recommended specs or are running a dangerously bloated system and it's time for a reinstall.

Btw, the minimum amount of RAM required for Windows XP is ridiculously low - I believe either 128MB or 256MB.
Post edited February 21, 2021 by WinterSnowfall