Ele's super monster mega catch-up post of doom. Thanks SPF - I had deleted all my beautiful post links because of a screw-up somewhere that I am too tired to find, so... sorry about that. I tried!
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Quickfire to Lift's accusations:
Lifthrasil: elebutterfly's re-read was more interesting: she attacks trent (and all others) for not finishing off ZFR. But she didn't do so herself and instead tried to re-vive the stalled SPF wagon. Also she accuses trent of being psychic because he warned about the danger of no-lynch. Really? Being aware that no-lynch is a danger when there are competing trains close to the deadline is a sign of scumminess now? That's a bit much. Last but not least she has a grand total of one post today. That is a bit little. One could say lurky. So, I have her leaning scum.
I did state pretty clearly in post 509 that I did not think ZRF was a good lynch and was one I could not support in good conscience. C.f. Vitek in post 552. The two previous votes for SPF were trenton in post 491 and flub in post 503. I voted SPF before I left for the night in post 509 and put him at L-1: that hardly counts as "
reviving the
stalled SPF wagon". I'm... somewhat bemused that you could misread something as clear as voting order quite as badly as that.
trenton was also the first to unvote SPF (post 533), and the first to start the wagon of doom on cristi in post 562. Given some of the subtle scumhinting I've seen in other games, I am tempted to read these posts as hints to the rest of his team. If he was more actively getting on people's cases about not voting, while lamenting a nolynch, then I might consider it more towny.
As for the lurking, other than at the time you posted this was consistant with my previous posting average of once every 24 hours, due to me being on holiday at the moment. I was away last week with the family and I'm city-hopping this week. I'll be back home on 21st July. (This almost-48-hours was a blip for which I apologise, on Monday afternoon I was given a freelance editing job on no notice whatsoever, deadline this evening, and had to juggle up all my plans.)
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Scattered notes as I read:
SirPrimalform: I'm wondering why [Bookwyrm] left his vote on an a wagon that obviously wasn't going anywhere when he wasn't planning to come back before the end. That was basically a vote for a no lynch. /snip
Good point.
Thanks for the comprehensive reply - to 3) my issue is more with the timing of your vote switch, rather than cristi being a "bad" lynch or an incomprehensible switch on your part. Also, I don't think of Vitek's wording in the post you reference to be "starting a wagon":
Vitek: I still find cristi to be optimal lynch here but I don't have any support at all so...
G'night I guess.
That's not exactly a call to arms...
(The objection I had to 4) has been tossed about by Joe and Lift quite comprehensively, I'm not going to beat that one any further.)
Again thanks for the comprehensive reply - will digest later. No hard feelings about being tired, that wasn't meant as an attack.
HypersomniacLive: /snip
How do you know that my post #606 was RIGHT on the deadline?
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I... What? Why are you asking me this? It's an empirical fact that your vote post 606 came two posts after the EoD post. Even with no timestamps, given the consistant countdown reminders from Poppy it's not a stretch to infer that the three posts happened within seconds of one another, especially given Joe's subsequent begging for an extension in the grounds that you could change your vote, which strongly suggests you were still showing as online at the time. I'm not sure what this question was meant to achieve... could you explain? Does anyone else find this a strange question?
JoeSapphire: Ele - Did you ever vote ZFR? I thought I remembered you had. (I could check Hyper Soh's detailed vote list but it might lose everything I've written so far, so I'll do it after I've posted. Do you reckon ZFR is worth lynching today?
I don't believe I did vote him-- *checks spreadsheet* Nope I didn't. My D1 votes were for bler (46), Bookadalia (304) and SPF (509). I actually was late enough to the party that I didn't make an RVS vote, I just got stuck straight in trading punches with bler.
I think the ZFR ship has sailed, to be honest. I believe he's town, and I believe because of the mess of the end of D1 that the wagon of a lynch now won't reveal much of use, unless new information comes to light. His enthusiastic explosion at Damn and Hyper for failing to push the lynch through, even if it was himself and even if he was genuinely town, won him a bunch of town points in my book.
On a related note, I really got shivers with adalia asking why ZFR didn't vote for himself in post 664, since that amounts to putting words in his mouth and is a really odd question for a townie to ask. Everyone knows voting for yourself serves no purpose... right? I am thinking in particular of xyem's self-hammer back in game 8. That was a mess. :)
cristigale: With the way things are going so far today, no, I'm not overly concerned. So far, I've liked the discussion as far as moving forward. I'm concerned about the possibility of another last minute wagon day. But I hope we learned our lesson. So here's what I'm thinking, Once I am caught up and some exchanges, if I am still a likely lynch candidate, perhaps it's best I claim with
24-48 hours to spare. I've waffled on this, so I'd like some input. If enough players (not in my scum pile) thinks it is best, I'll claim.
Anticipated by bler in 762, but I agree with him: again we don't
have to leave it so late. We shouldn't wait until the deadline to lynch just because it's a deadline! D:
And bler - the feeling is mutual..! :S
trenton: I hope all's well at home... :( best wishes.
Also - look at that shift to me! Look at it! What is going on, why did the cristi wagon stall? It's happening again! Argh!
More tomorrow... my vote on Hyper is going nowhere, and despite bemoaning the lack of unified pressure on a subject, I don't have enough strength of feeling to lynch cristi at the moment. But tomorrow I will be reading trying to find a reason not to, since others apparently have strong enough feelings to go to L-2.
Leaning scum: too many to be viable at this point. I want to argue more with/read more of with cristi, Lift, SPF, flub, Hyper and adaliaWyrm (and trenton, but I'm witholding that one until the replacement goes through. No hard feelings at all, but it renders my case thus far entirely useless).
Leaning town: I would be inclined to trust bler, Joe and ZFR.
Leaning against a wall: Damn
SPF and adalia! You both vote for me based on "vibes".... that doesn't give me much to work with.
