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I thought that's what he's saying here:

Is this accurate?

Typo, Freudian slip... not much difference, eh?


Does "this" refer to the WIFOM itself he speaks of, or his insistence that said WIFOM isn't out of the question?

I can completely understand that. Hell, I'd lynch me for it.
But given what I've stated during D1, would you really believe that I support role fishing?

ELI5: How am I implying it's a town power role? If anything, I'm implying the "who he claims/pretends to be". And the Prange was a typo, was meant to be Orange, but I'm sure you're aware of that.

I very much do not contradict myself, for I have never outright said any of the things you claim I have implied.
I didn't say I thought or knew he was a town PR, and I now say I never did. How is that contradictory?

See post 462. I made a typo, so sue me.

The only reason I'm debating this is to show how misrepresented my posts have become.

Players have "quoted" me as saying the brig would stop the lynch. And also saying I thought a single brigged scum would allow anything but End of Day.


I stated it was possible, not logical or even likely.

Since I'm desperately limited on this tablet I can't search and lay it all out. I also can't seem to open the post link....aargh, but thanks for it anyhow.

I will be expecting gifts and accolades for correctly guessing the scum team.

Flavour - Pylon of Justice ... if *something* "of Justice" is the flavour you base your "idea who he is" on, it's quite clearly both a town flavour that you see there and a PR. So yes, you did imply that you think he is town and has a PR. At least it reads to me that way.

But now I have an even more important question: do you always react so aggressively to being questioned? Or only when you are scum? I can't tell because we didn't play together before, IIRC.

Then you're flat out wrong, simple, and are clearly trying to put words into my mouth. I take my idea from the show which the flavor is based on, not how it translated into game mechanisms, which you seem to imply.

Yes, I do, when it is without basis and is bordering slander.

I wondered. You can skip my question on it; I was ninja'd like 2359873 times in 6 minutes anyway.

Might be interesting to revisit on Day 2, once the dust settles.

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Anyway. My time/posting ability will become much more limited in the coming few hours.

Of the existing wagons:
-I'm quite content to ride this Primal wagon all the way to lynch. If/when he flips scum, I think we'll have some good leads on other scum.

-I'm not interested in the ZFR wagon, even though some of his later comments rang a few warning bells.

-In spite of Flub's apparently purposeful misunderstanding, I'm not interested in the Flub wagon. Something about it is ringing some (different) alarm bells.

-I'm on the fence about a Cristi wagon. I'll have to see how (or even if) that develops.

-Several people want to give Lift a chance to actually play. Count me in that pool, though he's added some to my misgivings about his slot. I'll cap him if it is the only way to secure a lynch.

-I'm not helping lynch myself. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

That too but mostly that it's scummy. ;-)

I am going to toot my own horn a bit but my best reads ever were probably in a game, where I named the whole mafia correctly in post 42 in the middle of RVS. Gazoinks for lamenting how bad it is there is murderer among us, Krypsyn for suggesting someone could be jester and bazilišek for "random-voting" me for being hard to read.
I found it scummy before that I find it scummy even more afterwards. ;-)

*sigh* You see. The brig being able to stop the NK (which you surely mean) would be NECESSARY for scum to be able to claim that the NK has been stopped. Which was what you assumed they would do. Which was why Bookwyrm explained to you that they CAN'T claim that the NK has been stopped by the brig because it cannot be stopped by the brig.

Don't you see how the simple fact that the brig can't stop a NK makes your warning that scum might claim that the brig has stopped a NK quite moot? Bookwyrm pointed out that you are worried about a quite nonsesical scenario and still you kept defending that nonsensical scenario. I just wonder why.

regarding flub: If his recent behaviour is a mafia tactic I'm not sure I follow the reason.

It began when he made an illogical argument for the negatives of brigging (which most people believe there are many, and the consensus seems to be avoid early brigging)

when flaws in his argument got pointed out, he refuses to acknowledge them, or maybe misunderstands them (willfully or no). Why? He's not attempting to convince anybody, everybody's in favour of what he was arguing for already, dispite having serious concerns with his given argument.

There's an appealing image for me that the mafia, spooked by damnation's hinting that he'd worked out bucket's role, are taking advantage of flub's natural lynchmagnetism. but that's assuming a lot, and I don't really trust us to have the skill or wherewithal to manage it. As Hypersomniac says, everybody's been playing a but scummy...


more to come, but posting in short bursts

I am not going to argue with you about semantics. You have a penchant for pushing the grey areas. You chose to hide the real reason you voted (which turned out to be OK). I could tell that your answer was evasive.

I don't believe you believe this. 'It's a coincidence'...You are not that naive. 'Flub not knowing...', I don't buy this either given flub's reaction. I think you are trying to create reasons to discredit me.

OMGUS aside, this and the role fishing feels more than someone purposefully trying to discredit me. I will vote Bookwyrm if there is enough to lynch.

sorry ^ that should be "a but scimmy"

I'm surprised that bookwyrm says he's not interested in ZFR despite recieving warning bells. Does 'not interested' mean you don't want zfr's lunch? Why not? What's the good of warning bells ifyou're not alarmed by them?
He basically says he's avoiding all wagons other than SirP, or possibly Cristi but expresses doubts. Am I reading that correctly?

I can see the logic in a Cristi lynch. Several people have mentioned that she's not given any real reads other than her focus on flubbucket (and I'm blindly trusting them??? ow!)

I could lynch SirP although everything I've seen of his behaviour is pretty much consistent with his character, albeit not particularly useful for hunting scum.

My favourite to lunch is still ZFR. It looks like lots of people are waiting to see if someone else will budge first. It's very exciting!!

Okay, step back...

@flubb - Help me understand this "Orange Pylon of Justice"