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One more thing. Any deductions based on end of D1 have to take this into account:
_ Both HSL and Damnation were in the same situation (a chance to hammer SPF and then a chance to lynch 2 townies: cristi and me) and both behaved same way (indecision, then vote for one of the townies).
_ One of yogsloth and HSL is scum.
_i.e. one scum had the chance (and a good excuse to do so) to lynch a townie on end of D1 yet didn't do so. Why? My guess is all his buddies were on one wagon.

Other than that I'll just quote trent: "Take it how you will, but I’m not scum. My gameplay has been poor I admit and I apologize for that, real life has effected my game more than I would like.

I am totally sincere when I say if you really think I’m scum then lynch me if it helps you to figure things out."

I can't think of anything else to say, so whoever wants to hammer you don't have to wait for me to say anything.


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JoeSapphire: ALSO the odds that any random 4-person bucket all contains scum is low! So surely it'd be sensible to assume against it!
So here is a mafia strategy:
_Use random.org to get 4 random names.
_Assume they all scum can't be there so build a strategy around the fact that one of the remaining ones has to be scum.

Again, odds don't work that way.
Oh my god...
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yogsloth: {...} And I find Damanation's claim to be... slightly suspect.
Well you would, wouldn’t you. Gahhhh.

unvote trenton damn it.

If Damnation is indeed town he’s pretty much screwed himself, but he was pretty much screwed anyway. If scum, it’s brilliant. That said, lurking... My brain hurts.

Lift, ZFR, thoughts on yogs’ er, “input”?
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ZFR: _ One of yogsloth and HSL is scum.
Is it him? I bet it's him. It's him, isn't it.
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Bookwyrm627: *shrug* Considering you are one of the two named casualties from Phase 1, I wouldn't really expect you to be thrilled. Doubly so if you're scum, of course. :)
Mostly alarmed as it looks like you've taken the path to the slaughterhouse and hung a sign on it saying "free crumpets!".

Obviously I take all the shade back profusely if I'm completely wrong but I'm bloody certain you're looking to make some toast.
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ZFR: _ One of yogsloth and HSL is scum.
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yogsloth: Is it him? I bet it's him. It's him, isn't it.
Well, contradictory claims. Unless we have 2 doctors, one of you has to be scum.
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ZFR: Well, contradictory claims. Unless we have 2 doctors, one of you has to be scum.
Read the quote again. :P
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ZFR: Well, contradictory claims. Unless we have 2 doctors, one of you has to be scum.
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SirPrimalform: Read the quote again. :P
Oh, crab. I meant one of yogsloth/HSL, Damnation.
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ZFR: Oh, crab. I meant one of yogsloth/HSL, Damnation.
It was clear from context, I was just enjoying the joke. :D
EDIT: Also, in my quote of trent "real life has effected my game more than I would like." doesn't really apply to me. Should have removed that when copy pasted. No RL issues affected me, just general newbiness.

I just discovered I'm not a good town player. In the first game I was "in the know", at least a bit, plus it was an open setup. In the second one I was scum so knew who was whom. In this one... eh....

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bler144: This gamestate is a bleeping mess.
Serious question: was there a mafia game where you could say "wow, I love this gamestate. So neat and tidy. Best gamestate ever!"
If ZFR is scum I’ll eat bler’s Licorice hat. Every time I think he might be I see his posts and swing back to he’s not scum. I don’t think I can vote him unless it’s to prevent another no lynch. I think he’s a bad lynch though, I would rather lynch Lift or SirPrimalform.
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ZFR: Serious question: was there a mafia game where you could say "wow, I love this gamestate. So neat and tidy. Best gamestate ever!"
I vaguely remember some games where pretty near the end we got a mechanically locked situation where the scum basically couldn't escape. You need to have more things locked down than we do though, usually more cop reads.
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SirPrimalform: Considering I was low hanging fruit yesterday, I'm assuming I blocked the night kill and that's suddenly why the scum want me brigged and vigged. If they lynched me then my town flip would influence the night action choices (Joe might go for one of them?). This way my flip is only revealed tomorrow morning.
This makes sense... Regardless of whose idea or plan it was, this is what seems to have happened. Unfortunately I still don't entirely trust you yet - apart from the two of us there is zero support for lynching trent, and brigging the "town" roleblocker means there's way less chance (?) of the cop or doc being blocked. Also if it all goes to shit, it can't be your fault. There's that.

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Bookwyrm627: Maybe Damnation's claim is legit, and we've got not only a Doctor that can follow the Cop, but an extra Cop in case the Doctor isn't good enough at keeping the Cop alive.
??? And the >1-shot Vig, confirmed Miller, and that bloody GF everyone keeps going on about all do nothing to dispel the sarcasm? Are you seriously suggesting there is no doctor?

That's noble of you Trent, but threatening to eat a hat made out of licorice is hardly an admission of certainty! And with six hours to go let's not repeat D1 again. That said, everyone, including me by this point, has some inkling of suspicion about Damnation, yet ZFR is the "obvious" lynch? Why are yogs and wyrm so happy about all of this? Why am I still here? Are we that scared about lynching power roles?

That last one is easy, apparently we are.

vote ZFR

Boom. I'll be frakked if I'm going to be accessory to letting this go to no-lynch while I'm actually here EOD for the first time. Would switch to Lift if there's support, I seriously doubt I'll be finding support for lynching trent now that SPF is in the brig. Will be AFK for a couple of hours now.
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elebutterfly: Also if it all goes to shit, it can't be your fault. There's that.
That's a point. Whatever happens at least no one can blame it on me. The outcome of the night might be easier to understand if we know I haven't blocked anyone (unlike this morning's mess).
Day 3 will end in six hours.
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ZFR: .....
If you’re really Town who on your wagon do you see as scum?