vote.... because I like Atlo's commentary to scene. I can't imagine Scum!Atlo putting his scumbuddy at L1 with at least one or two not voting. Or can I?

Yes, you called it and I was chortling to Pooka.
I'm leaning in that direction BUT...
@atlo
Why do you say "It can't be joppo because you both were at each others throat the entire day. "? Why couldn't Scene and Joppo have been arguing all day to buy time and town points for each other? Yes, it is safer and saner to not bus someone that hard--which would make for a perfect scum hail mary ploy! Explain please.

I'm leaning towards scum being a mix of Joppo, GR, or Scene.
"Town votes Scene. Other scum votes someone else. another town votes a new person"

<Must analyze Joopo+GR, Joppo+Scene, and GR+scene...After I sleep.>

I'd love to hear other explanations!.

I approve of you approving my conspiracy theory!!!
Can't say I'm exactly enthralled about the implications though...
It would mean anything goes... even me casting a vote on scene could be explained by ''Shit, Lift is about to join in on scene's wagon! That only leaves micro... if I don't join in now that will put me in the scum-pool!''

While Scene's last post was:
joppos was not.
joppo did not seperate.

Another thing:
Over here ''hail mary'' means - you saw something you wish you hadn't seen; throw a cross & NOPE. out.
I once had a very fun conversation with Catventurer regarding this... turns out where you're from it's a football term and means, to paraphrase ''a 1-shot save''. :''D

I'm so glad I now know the difference before you typed this.

@Atlo how many Mafia games have you played please? Have you not noted bussing between Mafia players in the past as a LAMIST tactic?

I noticed this too. Do you think it's natural? Atlo has played so few games that he'd expect that Mafia would not attack one another to make the victor look town upon the lynch? Or do you think he could be 'town reading me' as Scum to sheep me?

Keep trying hard to push me as scum....I wonder why.....is it because you're truly scum!scene and dislike me pushing hard for your lynch? Perhaps...

I'm guessing this is silly-posting/etc? Still, to me a bit weird to say...

And all this stuff above....are you perhaps trying to distance yourself from your teammate? To me it seems that way...but perhaps i'm wrong on this???

You'll note that my "vote hopping" has mainly been removing a vote from someone and then revoting them later.
(which as I explained is mainlyto prevent a hasty hammer in the case that i'm wrong on my reads)

You so sure they're not scum, then?
By the by, I would also wonder what their scumbuddy is doing....but I kinda already think I know e_e

Ahh, this seems to be some tasty zesty WIFOM.

Hmm, odd ain't it that both you and Scene are pushing me as a potential scum
I think I already know who i'm voting for. Just need to make one more post first...

Interesting, I have scene/joppo/atlo...even before your neutral reveal
Since we both have Scene, might I suggest we pool our resources?

I cannot wait for you to post such later, after you get some needed rest. Until then, note the following:

In post 283, Scene says "I think Gameranker and Joppo are the scum team. Atlo seems most town out of all of them. But I could be wrong.", and then they seem to throw suspicion/cast doubt about Atlo's towniness in Post 288**.
(I feel Scene is distancing themselves from Atlo with that latter post as well)

Then we have the fact that both Atlo(post 284) and Scene(post 283) seem to be pushing today for my lynch.
As such, I think the scum!team is Atlo/Scene or Joppo/Scene(but with the latest posts, i'm more leaning towards it being the former pairing), and with that i'd like your thoughts when you return.

Until then(and so I don't doubt myself and change my mind yet again in a mafia game):

Vote Scene

Addition to my reply (post 289), but for all remaining players to peruse:
Scene, you said "Gameranker has seemed scummy all game, I'm pretty sure he has to be Scum" earlier(post 283), yet you of all people(having played a number of games with me...unlike a player like Atlo) should know my behavior this game has been more or less par for the course in regards to how I play. So then why say it marks me as scummy in this game? And in what ways? You don't seem to elaborate beyond a basic "GR seems very scummy this game" statement.

You may note 2 Mafia players were on my wagon yesterday, to you it's confirmed 1 (assuming your town). If you were Town wouldn't you be slightly concerned on solving and making sure you don't vote Town? In the event I was town and the Scum came and hammered me, which they can do now. That's why myself and Micro haven't voted for anyone yet.

If I don't get hammered, it's clear I'm Scum btw and it's clear you are. Your Day 1 vote on me was scummy. You haven't been solving either. But I am going to do a deep dive. If I change my mind I'll let you know.

I (afaik) never said players are confirmed scum in my latest posts....to me the scum team is hiding among the 3 of you(Atlo/Scene/Joppo).

addition: before anyone says "well duh, there's only 3 other players besides you and Micro", note that besides Atlo the other 2 have been on my scum lean list awhile now.

Again, I believe you know me somewhat. This is how I often work on solving: try to read people as best I can(partly by how my gut leans people based on their posts) and vote/unvote accordingly.

How does this work exactly? If you aren't hammered how, does that make us both scum?

My day 1 vote was(in part) RVS and part gut. How was it scummy to you?
Also, did you not see the large throng of reads/leans I did at the start of day 2? how is that not trying to solve, exactly?

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Honestly, I feel you're scum!Scene trying to make me do a classic (for me) second guess by getting me to switch to someone else OR at the very least unvote you, and I still would like to see you "laid off" to-day.

That said, for now I will:
Unvote Scene

At least until Micro comes on and weighs in on what I asked them and also posts some more, anyhoo.

It could also of course mean one of them chose not to vote their scumbuddy out, so as to try getting another wagon to hammer instead.

p.p. edit: For someone claiming to be a town, and trying to avoid hammer to help town, you seem awfully eager to make me see you as scum/vote you. Why is that?

Joey goes back to listening to some musak for a bit as he tries to get some actual work done, while waiting to see what the pizza guy(his new name for Micro) says in response to his work DMs.

So let's look at the Wagon's from the remaining players.

Day 1

Micro - 3rd vote on Max, Scene hammers.

Joppo is on Trent's wagon with 1 vote

Gamezranker is on my wagon - because Lift removed his vote - that's his reasoning. No analysis from him.

Atlo is on CatVs wagon.

Conclusion:

Did Scum not want to be seen been on the wagon that lynched a Town player? Did Scum think that would look better? Did Scum hope for a no lynch?

to be continued...........I'm just starting Day 2

***BUMP***

Also one question(when you get to replying): If I was scum trying to not be seen, why would I then push Yog's wagon so hard on D2 and also help to get them laid off that same day?

Day 1 thoughts continued (I didn't note these so I should point them out)

Atlo's reads of myself and CatV I really liked. It was nuanced analysis.

Joppo had a good few reads, I didn't think they were quite as good as

GamezRanker (MrKrabsWallet) - didn't have any reads on Day 1, no thoughts on Max either unless I missed them.

I realise that's a bit of a short analysis.

And he goes off without responding to bunch of stuff I asked him....k....totes not dodgy seeming at all

Vote Scene