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Posted October 22, 2022
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Telika: Voting based on the first random vote (and literally denouncing it as "serious vote" - post 8) and then claiming to "not [be] treating it as a serious vote" (post 17) feels scummy to me. In fact my first reflex in front of post 8 had been to check the sign up thread to see if it was his first mafia game and could be excused as some unfamiliarity with the random phase vote. Cat confirms it's really not, so :

vote frostburnphoenix
looks like you got seriously mixed up?


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FrostburnPhoenix: That said Catv feels slightly off but just slightly,
off how?

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FrostburnPhoenix: Telika seems town pretty much, don't know about anyone else.
town how?

Telika, you've been mafia before or no? I can't remember what you said about it.
Posted October 22, 2022
@Catventurer's defence of Frostburn is interesting. Is he:

A) Being a helpful Townie
B) Covering for a co fasc as Scum
C) Buddying a Townie in Frostburn as Scum

Probably A or C.

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Catventurer: You misunderstand me. I was only making a joke that he's already acting wacky.

Absolutely nothing I say should be taken seriously at this point, unless it involves my health issues or cats.
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Telika: Okay, so I'll follow through with my logic.

Voting based on the first random vote (and literally denouncing it as "serious vote" - post 8) and then claiming to "not [be] treating it as a serious vote" (post 17) feels scummy to me. In fact my first reflex in front of post 8 had been to check the sign up thread to see if it was his first mafia game and could be excused as some unfamiliarity with the random phase vote. Cat confirms it's really not, so :

vote frostburnphoenix
Do you think he was being serious or joking though? As in saying a vote is a serious vote when in fact it's a random vote as a form of jest. I think you've over read the situation, perhaps on purpose as Scum, perhaps by accident

Vote Telika - this is actually a serious vote as it's all I've got to go on as of yet
Posted October 22, 2022
Sorry for being late, I had no idea the game was starting.

Blind vote:

Vote scene

Just 'cause.
Posted October 22, 2022
I did indeed interpret post 8's "Extremely weak but serious vote" as a justification for the vote against Joe. That is, as "I vote against joe because his justification is weak but his vote serious". Which would be absurd or dishonest.

In post 17, Frost said he didn't treat it as serious. It sounded to me like backtracking. He was in fact correcting my interpretation of the subject of post 8 (he clarified it in post 30).

The level-headed reaction and correction attenuates my suspicion. I still disagree with his vote, as I doubt Joe's random vote can be a way to "avoid attention" (as claimed in post 17). Not posting during the weekend and the game's slow start, for instance, would have been a better way to avoid attention.

And I do not interpret Frostburn's post as a RVS joke : His careful "weak but serious" is different from a "super serious, lolz" jest, plus he clarified his rationale in post 17. Which means that Supplement's expressed surprise (at the thought that anyone could take Frostburn's vote as anything but random) feels a bit off.
Posted October 22, 2022
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FrostburnPhoenix: That said Catv feels slightly off but just slightly,
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JoeSapphire: off how?
Read the last peart of the first paragraph of post #18 then compare to the second paragraph of post #22.

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FrostburnPhoenix: Telika seems town pretty much, don't know about anyone else.
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JoeSapphire: town how?
His push on me seemed towny even if wrong.

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supplementscene: Do you think he was being serious or joking though? As in saying a vote is a serious vote when in fact it's a random vote as a form of jest. I think you've over read the situation, perhaps on purpose as Scum, perhaps by accident
My vote was serious.
Posted October 22, 2022
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PookaMustard: 15. Have fun, and stay classy
Woah woah woah, I did not agree to this!

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FrostburnPhoenix: You RVSed a player who will be absent for awhile.
If you think it's an RVS vote, why are you taking it at all seriously?
Posted October 22, 2022
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JoeSapphire: Telika, you've been mafia before or no? I can't remember what you said about it.
Never. It's getting statistically awkward (and I dread next game).
Posted October 22, 2022
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Telika: I did indeed interpret post 8's "Extremely weak but serious vote" as a justification for the vote against Joe. That is, as "I vote against joe because his justification is weak but his vote serious". Which would be absurd or dishonest.

In post 17, Frost said he didn't treat it as serious. It sounded to me like backtracking. He was in fact correcting my interpretation of the subject of post 8 (he clarified it in post 30).

The level-headed reaction and correction attenuates my suspicion. I still disagree with his vote, as I doubt Joe's random vote can be a way to "avoid attention" (as claimed in post 17). Not posting during the weekend and the game's slow start, for instance, would have been a better way to avoid attention.

And I do not interpret Frostburn's post as a RVS joke : His careful "weak but serious" is different from a "super serious, lolz" jest, plus he clarified his rationale in post 17. Which means that Supplement's expressed surprise (at the thought that anyone could take Frostburn's vote as anything but random) feels a bit off.
Perhaps no posting would avoid attention for a short while but people can easily see that and eyebrows may be raised.

Aren't you contradicting yourself by saying you think "serious vote" was refering to Joe but then saying "weak but serious" could have been "super serious, lolz" which infers I'm refering to myself?

Also I was about to say this is normal scene but I've only played with scum!scene so :p yeah.

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FrostburnPhoenix: You RVSed a player who will be absent for awhile.
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my name is anime catte: If you think it's an RVS vote, why are you taking it at all seriously?
It's an RVS vote because it's in RVS and has no reasoning backing it. This doesn't mean it doesn't have an agenda.
Posted October 22, 2022
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FrostburnPhoenix: Read the last peart of the first paragraph of post #18 then compare to the second paragraph of post #22.
Since I was also going to ask how he feels off I'll follow up on this - I don't understand how the last part of first paragraph of #18 and the last part of #22 make CatV look off.
Posted October 22, 2022
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FrostburnPhoenix: Aren't you contradicting yourself by saying you think "serious vote" was refering to Joe but then saying "weak but serious" could have been "super serious, lolz" which infers I'm refering to myself?
You've already corrected the first object of "weak but serious" (in post 30), and I took note of it. SupplementScene's interpretation of "weak but serious" as ironical came later (post 32) and that's what I'm referring to there. SupplementScene claims that your "weak but serious" (referring to your own vote) was a RVS joke like "super serious, lolz". And that seeing anything serious in it is scummy.
Posted October 22, 2022
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my name is anime catte: If you think it's an RVS vote, why are you taking it at all seriously?
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FrostburnPhoenix: It's an RVS vote because it's in RVS and has no reasoning backing it. This doesn't mean it doesn't have an agenda.
Of course, it's possible there's an agenda but what exactly do you think that agenda is? All I can see is you saying it's "a convenient way to avoid attention during RVS" but I don't really see how it could be considered as such.
Posted October 22, 2022
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dedoporno: Since I was also going to ask how he feels off I'll follow up on this - I don't understand how the last part of first paragraph of #18 and the last part of #22 make CatV look off.
She said "don't take me seriously" then made a point to correct it to "don't take me seriously right now" and it feels somewhat panicked.

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Telika: You've already corrected the first object of "weak but serious" (in post 30), and I took note of it. SupplementScene's interpretation of "weak but serious" as ironical came later (post 32) and that's what I'm referring to there. SupplementScene claims that your "weak but serious" (referring to your own vote) was a RVS joke like "super serious, lolz". And that seeing anything serious in it is scummy.
Fair enough

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FrostburnPhoenix: It's an RVS vote because it's in RVS and has no reasoning backing it. This doesn't mean it doesn't have an agenda.
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my name is anime catte: Of course, it's possible there's an agenda but what exactly do you think that agenda is? All I can see is you saying it's "a convenient way to avoid attention during RVS" but I don't really see how it could be considered as such.
The agenda, if there is one, is just that, avoid attention during RVS. If Joe didn't post at all it would probably draw attention so RVSing someone unlikely to respond is a good way to avoid the spotlight.

Anyways-

Vote Catventurer
Posted October 22, 2022
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PookaMustard: 15. Have fun, and stay classy
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my name is anime catte: Woah woah woah, I did not agree to this!
Well, then you may agree to this instead:

VOTE CATTE
Posted October 22, 2022
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supplementscene: @Catventurer's defence of Frostburn is interesting. Is he:

A) Being a helpful Townie
B) Covering for a co fasc as Scum
C) Buddying a Townie in Frostburn as Scum

Probably A or C.
You should know by now that wasn't a serious comment, and that I was just making a joke about the fact that he looks mafia when he's town. I but heads with him more than anyone so my comment about that I like having him around was just to say that no matter how much I disagree with any of you, I don't actually hate anyone here and am not secretly plotting your demise in every single game. I'm aware that I can get a bit enthusiastic when it comes to lynching people.

Anyway since you also pointed out that I seem off, I'm going to need to remind you of a few things:

1. I recently got exposed to covid again. It's in the setup thread. What I didn't mention is that I'm on the CDC high risk list.

2. I also mentioned in the setup thread that I got bit by a black widow spider about a week ago.

Also if I get sick with absolutely anything, it always takes me longer to recover. I didn't mention this in the setup thread after either because I'm pretty much stuck at home on bed rest, which shouldn't impact the game. Most of you will be gone for the day due to time zone by the time I start to be too tired to be coherent.

I should seem off at the moment because I'm not in the best of health. Anyway, I am going to be away for a bit to try to eat breakfast.


Also....

vote FrostburnPhoenix

I saw what you did there, so this is an obligatory "Oh My God You Suck" vote.
Posted October 22, 2022
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