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detective_razza: i personally have suspicion against RW, i believe they were someone dessimu was looking into
Ah, so that is why you killed Dessimu?
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detective_razza: i personally have suspicion against RW, i believe they were someone dessimu was looking into
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ZFR: Ah, so that is why you killed Dessimu?
if i killed dessimu, as you're stating, why would i have suspicion of RW? seeing as you think we're working together- i answered any questions dessimu asked me at the end of D2, being co-operative with them, what reason would i have to kill them?
^^ 'that they suspected that if RW is scum, that i would be as well?' dessimu's guess was based on how RW is interacting with the new players, not because i had any suspicious behaviour in their eyes.
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ZFR: "Did nothing" is like textbook fake claim telling their actions.
Did you believe babark's claim Yesterday?
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ZFR: "Did nothing" is like textbook fake claim telling their actions.
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dedoporno: Did you believe babark's claim Yesterday?
I wasnt online when he made it. Only read it at Night.

Seems believable, now Im not so sure.

If he's not going to use it anyway, it's close to policy lynch territory.
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ZFR: I wasnt online when he made it. Only read it at Night.

Seems believable, now Im not so sure.

If he's not going to use it anyway, it's close to policy lynch territory.
I have some thoughts on the matter but I won't say anything right now as we sort of agreed earlier to not go into details yet. If you believed his claim earlier you probably should be able to reach the same conclusions, though. It's mostly a matter of trust, I suppose.


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detective_razza: just wanted to ask, how much are people saying on roles/ power roles and such based on the night period?? how much are people allowed to say??
Players should consider how important the information they might have is and when would be the best time to share it with the rest. If someone happens to have solid incriminating evidence on someone else they can consider spilling it out as there is a good chance the scum team can get effectively cut down in half assuming there are only 2 left. Still, it sort of depends on what the player has as information/conclusions and what they're role is - in some cases it would be more beneficial to press against someone without openly giving away everything if the role in question seems like it hasn't used up all of its potential. I hope that answers your question.
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dedoporno: I have some thoughts on the matter but I won't say anything right now as we sort of agreed earlier to not go into details yet. If you believed his claim earlier you probably should be able to reach the same conclusions, though. It's mostly a matter of trust, I suppose.
By the way, there is still something that hasn't happened yet but eventually will which can potentially incriminate babark. It's a longshot but it's still mildly exciting.
PSA: My boy has a birthday on Sunday so we'll be running around getting prepared for his party and I'll probably won't be around a whole lot. Looking at the thread it seems everyone has other stuff to do anyway so my inconsistent availability won't be too disruptive.
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dedoporno: PSA: My boy has a birthday on Sunday so we'll be running around getting prepared for his party and I'll probably won't be around a whole lot. Looking at the thread it seems everyone has other stuff to do anyway so my inconsistent availability won't be too disruptive.
OK, just don't forget to have a typed reply ready so you can post it soon as Lift closes the Day.
Greetings goglodytes,

I see that the night ended and Dessimu is gone. He was moving toward aolud town for me, so that's unfortunate. I am a bit dismayed at the NL result of yesterday. Sadly, I woke up some 25 minutes after the day had already ended, so even if I was half an hour faster, I doubt I could've done much to change things.

I am currently moving cross country. Just left Santa Fe and typing this from Las Vegas, New Mexico. I have connection throughout most interstates, but I'll also be driving and keeping my partner entertained. I will however catch up every night at the hotel of the day and be posting and contributing then. See you in a few hours with some deeper thoughts about the previous day and the night results.
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ZFR: Pretty much. She + catte, then Joe, dedo, maybe RW.
Given that we still have 2 mislynches (assuming 2 mafia left), are JoeSapphire and dedoporno in order of preference, or interchangeable right now? What about RWarehall?


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ZFR: ALAAAARM ALAAAAARM.

"Did nothing" is like textbook fake claim telling their actions.
and

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ZFR: [...] Seems believable, now Im not so sure.[...]
I thought you had a town read/lean on him yesterDay, way before the CFD on him at EoD2. Do you find this so telling that you're re-evaluating that read, or is there also something else here?


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ZFR: [...] If he's not going to use it anyway, it's close to policy lynch territory.
[emphasis added]

He didn't use his power last Night, does it mean that he's not going to use it ever again?



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RWarehall: ~ ping ~
Are your top 2 lynch candidates toDay the same as yesterDay?
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JoeSapphire: I guess there's some reason why it would be beneficial to not reveal babark's target but I had to think about it forst.

No point rushing into it but I'd have thought babark should tell us his action toDay.[...]
My comment was more about not revealing details about how his Power works, as for his target, see bellow.


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JoeSapphire: I[...] No point rushing into it but I'd have thought babark should tell us his action toDay.[...]
[emphasis added]

I saw that he already stated that he didn't target anyone, but still - I'm not sure I follow on the part I highlighted. Whoever their target was, it most likely, if not certainly, wasn't Dessimu, right? Why should he say who he guarded? How does that piece of info progress the game state?


Also, from EoD2:
-- You made posts #721 and #726 where you revoted babark. What did you mean with "the mo", and can you talk about what didn't look right that made you revote him?
-- In post 629, you voted dedoporno, also mentioned Dessimu. Did you mean that each one had better chances at flipping red independently, or did you have the two linked in your mind? If the latter, does anything change for you regarding dedoporno now that Dessimu flipped VT?



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dedoporno: [...] Agreed. Also, RW.
Can you go into your thought process here that leads you to want RWarehall to reveal his action? I'm not sure I follow, given that Motion Detector doesn't give concrete info.


Also, from EoD2:
-- Which way were you leaning when you made post #731? Do you still feel the same way?
-- What do you think of detective-razza coming about 5 hours before Lifthrasil ended the Day, and switching her vote from JoeSapphire to Catte, when RWarehall was in the lead? Do you think she was aware of the game state?


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dedoporno: PSA: My boy has a birthday on Sunday so we'll be running around getting prepared for his party and I'll probably won't be around a whole lot. Looking at the thread it seems everyone has other stuff to do anyway so my inconsistent availability won't be too disruptive.
Best wishes, and hope the party's a great success! Is JoeSapphire invited?
The puzzlement continues. Who would kill a kindly old professor? Was he on to something? Is the Holy Grail somewhere and some villain wants it to himself? Were any secrets hidden in his diary? And why are others still alive? Who are the hidden villains? Only one person seems to have a solid opinion on that at the moment.

Official Vote Count

detective_razza 1 - ZFR 738

not voting: everyone else
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch and Razza is at L-4
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HypersomniacLive: I thought you had a town read/lean on him yesterDay, way before the CFD on him at EoD2. Do you find this so telling that you're re-evaluating that read, or is there also
The read was mostly gut feeling, nothing particularly strong.
Not having made an appearance yet: Catte
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detective_razza: [...] seeing as you think we're working together[...]
Could you clarify who's in this "working together" with you that you think ZFR means?


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detective_razza: if i killed dessimu, as you're stating, why would i have suspicion of RW? [...] i answered any questions dessimu asked me at the end of D2, being co-operative with them, what reason would i have to kill them? [...]
I honestly don't know what to think here. Do you really think that mafia are that straightforward when picking their NK target? Kill those that openly suspect them? And that if somone's co-operative that it automatically means they're town?

@all, can somebody check me here? I mean, this reads like coming from a place of innocence and - no offence, detective_razza - naivete? Like, if she's scum, this must be like the greatest performance ever?



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Ambiti0nZ: Greetings goglodytes,

I see that the night ended and Dessimu is gone. He was moving toward aolud town for me, so that's unfortunate. I am a bit dismayed at the NL result of yesterday. Sadly, I woke up some 25 minutes after the day had already ended, so even if I was half an hour faster, I doubt I could've done much to change things.

[...] See you in a few hours with some deeper thoughts about the previous day and the night results.
Regarding the NL, keep in mind that since we started with an even number of players, a NL has always been a strategic choice to make at some point. IMO, yesterDay was as good as any Day, since it was NL or lynching the Town Rolestopper.

Still, looking forward to your thoughts. Drive safely!



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ZFR: The read was mostly gut feeling, nothing particularly strong.
OK, thanks. What about the other things I asked you?