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General discussionGOG Mafia #76: Trouble in the Lucas Arts Multiverse(1060 posts)(1060 posts)
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This is my favourite topic
Posted June 24, 2022
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ZFR: Joe, if you tell me which of catte/razza is your partner, I promise to vote him/her instead toDay.
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JoeSapphire: you remember when gogtrial got all smug with me last game?
I'll probably hate myself if you're lying. But

unvote Joe
Posted June 24, 2022
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JoeSapphire: I am kinda tempted to take razza at face value here and say she doesn't know if bucktooth is mafia or not. What do you reckon, razza?
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detective_razza: yes, i genuinely don’t know xD from reading,
if you read the reveal again can you tell?


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Lifthrasil: A long time the squabble goes back and forth. Then, as the sun is touching the horizon, a consensus slowly forms. Many are increasingly convinced, that something is wrong with Manny Calavera. And it's not only that he is 3D, moves awkwardly and is missing all flesh. Hey, there are some really friendly skeletons in the multiverse, so that's OK. But still, half of the persons present suspect Manny of hiding something. Until, when the sun has already half sunk, Max finally screams:
"This is taking too long! I want to beat someone up!"
Which he promptly does. Manny Calavera is held by several persons and Max breaks his bones until he stops moving. And lo and behold, a mist rises from Mannys mangled remains. A purple mist, in the shape of a tentacle which raises a stumpy arm in a threatening way at the assembled crowd. But to no effect. The mist is sucked into the Chrono John and Mannys corpse dissolved. On the spot where he died a gravestone appears which reads:

bucktoothgamer is dead.
He was Manny Calavera, possessed by Purple Tentacle
He carried the power of the Purple Tentacle, which is ... having arms. In other words he was a Mafia Goon.

Final Vote Count:
bucktoothgamer 7 - Hypersomniac 360, AmbitionZ 377, RWarehall 388, ZFR 391, JoeSapphire 395, dedoporno 423, frostburnphoenix 435
RWarehall 1 - bucktoothgamer 336
Hyper 1 - babark 300

It takes 7 players to lynch. bucktoothgamer has reached this majority and is lynched.
Not voting: Catte, Lord Cephy, detective_razza

It is now Night. Which will last for two days. If you have any Night actions, please send them to me at your earliest convenience via PM or chat, if you have one.

Please cease posting now!
Posted June 24, 2022
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JoeSapphire: you remember when gogtrial got all smug with me last game?
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ZFR: I'll probably hate myself if you're lying. But

unvote Joe
hum. I think this is fine? I feel like I'm missing something but I'll also falling asleep. Do we have a deadline dayyet?
Posted June 24, 2022
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babark: I can completely accept that s/he was busy near the end, but that would still give some time.
Catte's a gentleman and a scholar. Literally.


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detective_razza: i guess you could say my tactic for D1 was to just see what happens, and then hopefully more would happen on D2, which we could then refer back to D1 and look for similarities/ differences in behaviour- ig i’m just waiting for that, though i’ll be more active now it’s D2- no more coasting from me, i promise xD
Sounds like a plan! Let's get crackin'. Who da scums? Seriously, what are your thoughts at this moment? Right now this is likely about as much as "more happening" you're gonna get so you should be forming, if not formed already, some sort of idea where you'd want to look at for the mafia.


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Dessimu: @RWarehall. #361 you explain what looks like your entire way of judging players and pointing out what slips or hints you are looking for mafia to make. Just as it is informative for new townies to look for the same things, it can be used as a "checklist of what not to do" by same new mafia players. On one hand, you may be mafia, guiding your new scum buddies on D1, due to mafia chat being unavailable (if chat is available, really no reason to go in such detailed post and potentially helping townies to be more aware). On the other hand, you are town, guiding new townies. The question: are you not concerned that your teachings could be used by mafia?

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• HSL, RWarehall are town.
I have a bit of a hard time following this post. You start by considering different angle about RW and I agree cases could be made for either side but then when you list your suspicions you have RW sharing the top Town spot with HSL. Based on what you wrote next about ZFR shouldn't their spot be at least swapped and maybe RW being a tiny bit lower even?

OK, I see some more explanations on that topic in #494 but then what was the point in "wondering" which RW it is?


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detective_razza: yes, i genuinely don’t know xD from reading, i just got the general consensus that it was believed to be a successful lynch (with HSL being congratulated for starting the voting of bucktooth and such)
i just wanted to make sure i was correct in thinking that, that’s all ^^
:O
Posted June 24, 2022
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dedoporno: :O
LOL
Posted June 24, 2022
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JoeSapphire: tbf I think there's something off about me this game, too

I keep looking at my posts going "that looks scummy af what the heck are you playing at?"
Perhaps this is just post-championship PTSD Joe.
Posted June 24, 2022
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ZFR: I also don't like catte's 504.
Well I don't like your face! Gut feeling still says Joe is off, but it's unsubstantiated as of now.

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babark: I can completely accept that s/he was busy near the end, but that would still give some time.
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dedoporno: Catte's a g̶e̶n̶t̶l̶e̶man and a s̶c̶h̶o̶l̶a̶r̶. Literally.
Well, one out of three ain't bad.
Posted June 24, 2022
@Dedo. In my first post I posed a question "Is RWarehall town or mafia, having him and Buck(scum) cross-voted each other?". Next post I share a few of my observations and while I may not have shared them all, the conclusion I came up with (at least for toDay), is that RWarehall looks town. I checked ZFR less than that, and can only say he leans town. This is my assessment, which compared to yours or anybody elses, will be less than complete, given the fact I joined the game since D2.

More importantly though, Dedoporno, why do you put emphasis on which of the two players, who both look rather town, is townier? How does swapping them places change anything and help catch scum?
Posted June 24, 2022
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JoeSapphire: but there was someone else non-voting I thought?
D'oh! You're right, there's detective_razza as well. I dunno why last night in my mind there was some reason to excuse him. Cephy I guess I was giving a pass due to real life issues.

And I think I have been scum in some games (at least one game?), but it was years ago and I don't really remember.

Also, since we seem to be talking about roles right now, I'm curious why Frost was NK, when he was such an obvious NK. Or was that only my perspective? Did other people have other suspicions?
Posted June 24, 2022
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Lifthrasil: bucktoothgamer is dead.
He was Manny Calavera, possessed by Purple Tentacle
He carried the power of the Purple Tentacle, which is ... having arms. In other words he was a Mafia Goon.
Because thou shall love the Tentacle!

Sorry, could not resist xD
Posted June 24, 2022
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JoeSapphire: if you read the reveal again can you tell?
assuming “Mafia Goon” means buck was scum, then yes?

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dedoporno: what are your thoughts at the moment?
hm, if i had to go through:

joe - a lil suspicious rn, slight lean but i’m just keeping an eye on him
dedo - i don’t have any suspicion on dedo rn, i’d say town
catte - i feel like i haven’t seen/ heard catte very often (i’m sure many could say the same about me though), so i’d say could be town, could be scum?
HSL - i think HSL is town.
ZFR - i think ZFR is town too, although could potentially be looked into for the death of Frost- since they were arguing D1- but i think ZFR is town.
dessimu- hmmmmmm, i think could be scum- a slight lean, but that’s just a gut feeling.
RWare - i think RWare has a scum lean.
Ambition - i think Ambition could be town? I don’t think I have a reason to believe they aren’t rn.

i think that’s everyone?
Posted June 24, 2022
i forgot babark ahh

babark - i’d say town, i’d say PERHAPS scum lean? but that’s based off his ‘lurking’ in D1, he seems to be getting more active, so i’d say town for now.

if i had a list i’d say: joe, dessimu (based off the hunting done by Cephy of Frost in D1 and now Frost is dead :’o), RWare, catte and babark
^^ that’s my guess and general vibe as of rn.
Posted June 24, 2022
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Dessimu: More importantly though, Dedoporno, why do you put emphasis on which of the two players, who both look rather town, is townier? How does swapping them places change anything and help catch scum?
You listed 2 players simply as "Town". I read that as "Town-core, I'm not ever voting for these from now on". The others are "leaning Town" which I read as "I like these players more than others for the time being". There is a subtle but important difference considering you're putting your reads and intentions on record. The way #491 read to me suggested a still existing uncertainty about RW yet you added him to your Town-core. ZFR I singled out mostly because I also have a strong Town read on (and quite a lot others) while I still have some suspicions about RW and yourself at the back of my head and I'm making a note of the potential link. I don't know if I explained myself as well as I wanted to.


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babark: Also, since we seem to be talking about roles right now, I'm curious why Frost was NK, when he was such an obvious NK. Or was that only my perspective? Did other people have other suspicions?
What would your guess be?


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detective_razza: if i had a list i’d say: joe, dessimu (based off the hunting done by Cephy of Frost in D1 and now Frost is dead :’o), RWare, catte and babark
^^ that’s my guess and general vibe as of rn.
Thanks. Would you like to vote one of them right now?
Posted June 24, 2022
@Dedo. I see. In this case, I can explain myself like this:
• I have yet no certainty of anyone else alive being Town
• based on changing circumstances, in the future I am willing to vote everyone
• when I say someone is Town or leaning Town, I mean that at this point I don't have reasons to distrust them and I am willing to believe what they say, to a certain point. Or, in other words, I believe they have no ill will
• should I find another townie, I will also provide evidence
• and basically I am looking for scum in the pool of "all players, minus Town-leaners"
Posted June 24, 2022
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Dessimu: • and basically I am looking for scum in the pool of "all players, minus Town-leaners"
Then why make the separation of more Town and less Town at all?
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