That sounds like a you problem, not a me problem.

New phone, who dis?

We all make terrible decisions at some point in life, but I still support you!

You lost me here. Sir, what? Preposterous. But do explain.

Who dis? Never met 'em.

Weak. In a non-role madness game you run a higher risk of engaging in a whole lot of mislynches out of this dogma. Of course, we first have to figure out the game setup as a collective.

I made no such case. This was entirely painted onto me bringing up viable possibilities in the real of reasonable probability of happening in our setups.

I have so many questions...

Acceptable explanation.

Unvote ZFR
Vote bucktoothgamer

I guess you escape my vote for now, RWarhol

Eh, I've seen more audacious propositions. I don't know what to make of it yet.

FWIW, I think RWare's argument about a VT lynch today given time constraints is deece. So if it's me, c'est la vie. But do scrutinize everyone on the wagon, including him. After all, a good argument is a better cover for scummy intentions than a bad one. But he is proposing something that would hinder intel gathering for scum. Drawbacks and benefits, I suppose. Still, if you really think I'm town and don't wanna run the risk of mislynching (which means you have a 30% chance of hitting scum based on your reading of me, knowing yourself to be town, and accepting that there are probably 3 malefactors at play against town), I won't really mind it cause I'm pretty ambivalent to buck or RWare as the lynch. RWare has just made too many good points in the last couple of posts.

Anyway: Frost is sus. buck is sus. RWare is sus. baba is kinda sus. Dunno what to make of JoeTopaz. ZFR is questionable, but slight towny read, barely. For dedo and Cthulhu I got no reading. Razzazel is likewise an enigma still. And I just realized that I don't quite know what to make of Catte yet. Maybe scummy? Hmmmm. I'll have to dwell on it.

For D1 I am unwilling to vote for HSL or any of the true new players cause of the D1 protection (including Frost).

I'm not sure what you find unclear or interesting about it. You asked people to look at two specific posts and how they look to us. I responded that I don't find anything particularly concerning in them (my assumption was that you saw something that you don't like and you wanted to see if others would also read them in the same way). How would you have liked it worded?


That's the thing. He has played here before. And the newbie protection is not in place so we can have better meta reads on them for next game. It's so they can experience at least one full Day and more importantly their first Night as that's when they can make use of whatever special power they may have.

Thanks. I understand better now. I don't really subscribe to the logic of them being more prepared than they let know means they are likely scum but I get your point.


Sure but I was mostly thinking of the TvT stuff :P


How does that prove it?


I have to stop at #355 as I have work but I'll come back in a bit later (before the Day ends).

I am not sure what "shoot RWarehall" means. Is it some sort of flavour thing (did Zak ever have a gun?) or some sort of role thing?

Also, dedo seems awfully protective of HSL, and has stated twice that his behaviour is normal from even the last game, and implies I should change it. Could someone please corroborate this for me? Otherwise it's a bit suspicious (also "thanks" for removing your vote from me and placing it on the probably never getting it Catte).

It's almost 12PM MEST right now, "late afternoon" could be like...4PM? I will be awake and probably active, so for now I'll keep my vote on HSL, but if dedo starts getting votes, I'd be happy to switch too.

I decided to count it as vote, since the intent to kill was apparent, the target was unambiguous and it was bolded.


Official Vote Count
bucktooth 2 - Hyper 360, Ambition 377
Catte 1 - dedo 340
AmbitionZ 2 - RWare 254, frostburn 257
RWare 3 - ZFR 313, bucktooth 336, Joe 373
Hyper 1 - babark 300

RWarehall is in the lead at L-4, it takes 7 votes to lynch
not voting: Catte, Cephy, detective

Please check whether your vote is where you want it to be. We're nearing the deadline (some hours left) and errors on my part would be very regrettable. So please double check my count and give a shout if I counted wrong. ;-)

my apologies, i posted twice in a row so it made it appear edited. it won't happen again.

I did something similar in a previous game where I had a day kill power. Or maybe I'm fabricating all of this in my mind, but I could've sworn I shot Krps and nailed him as mafia. I don't know, man. It's been years. It was a low key inside joke to that time when I had that power. God, I had a bunch of fun roles over the years.

Thank you. I appreciate that.

I do see your point, and I agree.

Also, from my side apologies if I was a jerk during the exchange. I get carried away.

Please vote. Few hours left. What on earth are you waiting for??

Are we really considering that, just because we do not have the evidence and it may not provide us with anything, we would not kill someone?

This is not an afternoon at nana's house, my friends. This is a game of mafia. We must have blood.

For my own convenience, I"m rearranging the VC from highest to lowest:

RWare 3 - ZFR 313, bucktooth 336, Joe 373
bucktooth 2 - Hyper 360, Ambition 377
AmbitionZ 2 - RWare 254, frostburn 257
Catte 1 - dedo 340
Hyper 1 - babark 300

This doesn't look good, and scum's happy letting it go to NL. @all my fellow townies - can we work on making this Lunch happening?.

I will reiterate that bucktoothgamer's having done and still doing nothing to consolidate the votes is suspect - look at his latest posts, are these the posts of a townie that wants a Lunch to happen?

From a quick skim of posts:
- The fact that right now I'm the only one on is depressing.
- detective_razza showed online when I came on; the fact they left without placing a vote is a bad look.
- Catte just unvoting bucktoothgamer, and only musing who he should vote but doing nothing is a bad look.
- JoeSapphire's reluctance with which he switched his vote smells funny; I really don't get why he'd want me dead this badly when he's providing zero reasons for it. Would he go for bucktoothgamer?
- babark wanting more confirmation about my SOP to perhaps change his mind without having a plan for where to go if/when he gets it, and only considering dedoporno as an alternative if he doesn't, isn't a good look.
- RWarehall's posts sound reasonable, problem is that he's pretty good at sounding reasonable as both alignments, and revealing his method isn't really AI. The only thing giving me a bit of pause is bucktoothgamer voting him with a reason that, even after his clarification, I don't get how it translates into scum!RWarehall for him.
- LordCephy leaving without a vote after spending a number of posts last night on things that don't have any bearing on toDay's Lunch is curious.
- Ambiti0nZ not letting go of an argument, and butting heads used to be very much town!him. I've not seen this mellowing at the end attitude before, and hope it's just due to him having grown/matured.

I don't want to think this is going to end in NL.

I'll bite. I'm beginning to think bucktoothgamer is our best hope. Still find it unlikely we'll get the numbers given the situation, but...
Finding out who Ambiti0nZ was took a lot of wind out of those sails anyway. Makes he play for more NAI.

Unvote Ambiti0nZ
Vote bucktoothgamer

I mean, I could switch to bucktooth, but it won't drive the wagons forward.

A lot of theory and nothing solid as to why and how all this translates into scum!RWarehall for you.


This is such a different tone than what you had last game. On top of that, I'd expect you to be more concerned about the split votes, and the very much real danger of ending the Day in NL.


What sort of round-about argument is this? We're not playing in a vacuum, and when you find someone to be scummy, you usually say they're scummy, not someone you town-read is more town than them.
This feels like the "more credit" argument from game #46 I had with scum!trentonl about his scum-buddy.


Why do you insist on this? Even after you allegedly changed your mind about Ambiti0nZ?


Sure, I just doubt you had Town's best interest at heart, and think that you exaggerated intentionally in order to paint Ambiti0nZ in a bad as possible light.



Sure, lets lynch JoeSapphire.