It seems that you're using an outdated browser. Some things may not work as they should (or don't work at all).
We suggest you upgrade newer and better browser like: Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer or Opera

×
Community
General discussionGOG Mafia #76: Trouble in the Lucas Arts Multiverse(1060 posts)(1060 posts)
(1060 posts)
Pages:
1
6
7
8
9
10
20
30
40
50
60
71
This is my favourite topic
Posted June 15, 2022
avatar
JoeSapphire: what do you think Frostburn's trying to cover?
avatar
ZFR: A slip that all (three) Mafiosi have roles.
No, I was trying to cover a slip that I had a role. And it very much seems you were rolehunting me.
Posted June 15, 2022
Yikes, big guns already been pulled out.
Posted June 15, 2022
avatar
ZFR: A slip that all (three) Mafiosi have roles.
avatar
FrostburnPhoenix: No, I was trying to cover a slip that I had a role. And it very much seems you were rolehunting me.
Seriously...
Posted June 15, 2022
avatar
ZFR: A slip that all (three) Mafiosi have roles.
Wait, did Frostburn number them?
Posted June 15, 2022
avatar
ZFR: A slip that all (three) Mafiosi have roles.
avatar
dedoporno: Wait, did Frostburn number them?
No, but three seems by far most likely.
Posted June 15, 2022
avatar
ZFR: A slip that all (three) Mafiosi have roles.
avatar
dedoporno: Wait, did Frostburn number them?
? I don't follow.

Number?
Posted June 15, 2022
avatar
ZFR: ? I don't follow.

Number?
Sorry, I probably worded that wrong. You said:

avatar
ZFR: A slip that all (three) Mafiosi have roles.
I was asking if Frostburn said there are three scum roles which are all the scum in the game. As far as I know the amount of scum isn't known, at least not from the game thread. Three are a good assumption but you mentioned it explicitly so I got the impression that was part of the slip but I can find it.
Posted June 15, 2022
avatar
ZFR: ? I don't follow.

Number?
avatar
dedoporno: Sorry, I probably worded that wrong. You said:

avatar
ZFR: A slip that all (three) Mafiosi have roles.
avatar
dedoporno: I was asking if Frostburn said there are three scum roles which are all the scum in the game. As far as I know the amount of scum isn't known, at least not from the game thread. Three are a good assumption but you mentioned it explicitly so I got the impression that was part of the slip but I can find it.
Ah, I see what you mean now.

No, but the slip only makes sense if there are three Mafiosi with PRs. If there are only two, then I fully expect both to have PRs in a 2vs10 game. Three on the other hand are already powerful by themselves vs 9, so if I see all 3 have PRs I'd expect it to be a role heavy game.

Of course assuming it is a scum slip. It could be like Frostburn said: he himself had a (town) PR and slipped by writing his first post, realised what he's done and attempted to correct it in his second post.
Posted June 15, 2022
To be technical...
Shadows of the Empire is listed as an Action/Adventure...
Anyway...

I am curious about how the "all scum have roles was arrived at". It could be a slip. It could be overreading the situation.

I do have to say specifically numbering the scum at "3" is equally curious and could be considered a slip as well. While the most likely number, it seems more than sure. But I wouldn't rule out 2 and an adverse 3rd party such as a serial killer or "town" arsonist.
Posted June 15, 2022
Looks like RVS ended with a... bang
*sigh*


avatar
ZFR: Ah, I see what you mean now.

No, but the slip only makes sense if there are three Mafiosi with PRs. If there are only two, then I fully expect both to have PRs in a 2vs10 game. Three on the other hand are already powerful by themselves vs 9, so if I see all 3 have PRs I'd expect it to be a role heavy game.

Of course assuming it is a scum slip. It could be like Frostburn said: he himself had a (town) PR and slipped by writing his first post, realised what he's done and attempted to correct it in his second post.
I don't quite follow on your reasoning here, given that 3vs9 is the standard 25% ratio in 12-players game. Can you elaborate/rephrase?
Posted June 15, 2022
avatar
RWarehall: I am curious about how the "all scum have roles was arrived at". It could be a slip. It could be overreading the situation.
I'm going to play a bit of devil's advocate here and say that I can see how the intro can be read in a way that suggests that all scum have special powers. Maybe it's a language thing and it only makes sense to me, and Frostburn I suppose, but I can see it. I do agree that it shouldn't be taken as a confirmation since flavor should be just flavor and I'm pretty sure Lift is aware and hasn't done it intentionally.
Posted June 15, 2022
avatar
HypersomniacLive: I don't quite follow on your reasoning here, given that 3vs9 is the standard 25% ratio in 12-players game. Can you elaborate/rephrase?
Yes, 3vs9 is normal. And in a "normal" (i.e. non-role-madness) 3vs9 I'd expect PR+PR+Goon or even PR+Goon+Goon.
So if I were a Mafioso and see that both myself and my buddies were PRs, I'd think "Cool. With so many Mafia PRs, this has to be a role-madness". And maybe I'd slip and write it loud in my first post, realise my mistake, and correct it in second.

On the other hand, if it's 2vs10, then even in non-role-madness game 2vs10 I'd expect PR+Goon or PR+PR. So there is no way for me to think "Cool, with so many Mafia PRs this has to be a role-madness" ergo, no way for me to make the slip.
Posted June 15, 2022
Or, simpler.

In a 12 player game:

You're a Mafioso in a 3 Mafia team. You see that all of you have PRs. Do you assume it's a role madness?
Maybe...

You're a Mafioso in a 2 Mafia team. You see that all of you have PRs. Do you assume it's a role madness?
No...

ergo: the slip, if present, is only possible in a 3 Mafia team.
Posted June 15, 2022
Since I already revealed I have a role, should I claim? Or wait?
Posted June 15, 2022
avatar
Ambiti0nZ: [...] And I am also interested in hearing dedoporno's answer to that question as well! [...]
How's that going?



avatar
ZFR: Yes, 3vs9 is normal. And in a "normal" (i.e. non-role-madness) 3vs9 I'd expect PR+PR+Goon or even PR+Goon+Goon.
So if I were a Mafioso and see that both myself and my buddies were PRs, I'd think "Cool. With so many Mafia PRs, this has to be a role-madness". And maybe I'd slip and write it loud in my first post, realise my mistake, and correct it in second.[...]
Got it. Why do you only expect a new player, with no prior experience (as stated directly to you in post #57), to slip as mafia, but not as town getting carried away by the flavour in post #2?


avatar
ZFR: [...] On the other hand, if it's 2vs10, then even in non-role-madness game 2vs10 I'd expect PR+Goon or PR+PR. So there is no way for me to think "Cool, with so many Mafia PRs this has to be a role-madness" ergo, no way for me to make the slip.
Why does the alternative have to be 2vs10? And is there any sort of assurance that in case it's only 2-mafiosi team, the rest's all town?



avatar
FrostburnPhoenix: Since I already revealed I have a role, should I claim? Or wait?
NOOO!
Pages:
1
6
7
8
9
10
20
30
40
50
60
71
This is my favourite topic
Community
General discussionGOG Mafia #76: Trouble in the Lucas Arts Multiverse(1060 posts)(1060 posts)
(1060 posts)