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ZFR: Scum tries to lynch you. No NK. You save an NK. Then you play very Towny. Scum forced to lynch you again because you oh-so-Towny. Yet they second guess themselves because they don't know if any shots left.
I think Joe's meaning was more in line of taking part in a scum lynch to prove himself. But now I get what you meant. Basically how the role is supposed to be played to make the best of it. Thing is Joe kind of missed the train on being pro-Town AF on D1 to soak up that NK, didn't he?
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ZFR: Scum tries to lynch you. No NK. You save an NK. Then you play very Towny. Scum forced to lynch you again because you oh-so-Towny. Yet they second guess themselves because they don't know if any shots left.
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dedoporno: I think Joe's meaning was more in line of taking part in a scum lynch to prove himself. But now I get what you meant. Basically how the role is supposed to be played to make the best of it. Thing is Joe kind of missed the train on being pro-Town AF on D1 to soak up that NK, didn't he?
Yeah.

I see what Joe meant now.

I got NK and lynch confused.

It's late.

Good night.
ah, thank you @Joe @ZFR. I agree, I don't see Joe or Lift behaving this way if town.
@ZFR: I noticed you didn't answer if you think Joe is scum. Which way do you think he leans?

We can't afford another NL. So at this late stage it is GH or Joe.

vote GymHenson

Sorry buddy ol pal, but it's just gotta be. We gotta lunch someone, and the alternate claims to be a PR. I might switch to Joe later, if needs be. Please claim officially ( I know you did unofficially claim VT, but care to make if official?)
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JoeSapphire: I might be able to clear my name by catching a scum in a lynch.
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ZFR: True, that's the reason a Commuter is powerful. Catch scum in a lynch and forcing them to try and lynch again without knowing if he's got any shots left...
aha yeah you misunderstood me

when I say 'catch scum in a lynch' I mean lynch scum in the day phase, not block the nightkill.

So if at some point in this game I start doing a decent job of things and general consensus is that I'm useful to town after all

THAT's when mafia start wetting themselves.



Can't wait!

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ZFR: And now you're....
You... you would hoist ME?

By my own PETARD no less!!!

Have you no shame?
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ZFR: True, that's the reason a Commuter is powerful. Catch scum in a lynch and forcing them to try and lynch again without knowing if he's got any shots left...
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JoeSapphire: aha yeah you misunderstood me

when I say 'catch scum in a lynch' I mean lynch scum in the day phase, not block the nightkill.
Yes. I get that now. So you plan to lynch scum, become supertowny while at the same time difficult to NK...

Good luck.
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Microfish_1: @ZFR: I noticed you didn't answer if you think Joe is scum. Which way do you think he leans?
I did. Unless Commuter is safe claim given by mod, I think Town.
Post edited August 11, 2021 by ZFR
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ZFR: Yes. I get that now. So you plan to lunch scum, become supertowny while at the same time difficult to NK...

Good luck.
I did. Unless Commuter is safe claim given by mod, I think Town.
thank you!
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JoeSapphire: aha yeah you misunderstood me

when I say 'catch scum in a lynch' I mean lynch scum in the day phase, not block the nightkill.
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ZFR: Yes. I get that now. So you plan to lynch scum, become supertowny while at the same time difficult to NK...

Good luck.
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Microfish_1: @ZFR: I noticed you didn't answer if you think Joe is scum. Which way do you think he leans?
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ZFR: I did. Unless Commuter is safe claim given by mod, I think Town.
you ok buddy? editing posts isn't like you...
Sorry about double post. better call it a night.
considering the Hearts of Iron4 Bundle on Humble. 75% off for the DLC I don't own, but i find the base game confusing.
Why'd I think bookwyrm was town again?

Who's town-reading bookwyrm right now can help me out?
Flub - D1
#86 - Greet post
#87 - Insignificant post
#122 - Query to Micro about his choosing of vote (it's a Random Vote)
#123 - Query for clarification to Book about Mango(Cadaver) and Leoric as suspects
#126 - Lynch is good (OK)
Soft implying that GH might have something to do with Mafia chat (a semi-joke I guess), seems he is not happy with someone else replying to questions meant for others (I agree)
#127 - Insignificant post
#130 - Micro not Dedo (ZFR mistakenly named the other)
#132 - Insignificant post
#145 - Insignificant post
#177 - Willing to support GH lynch (OK)
#179 - Bump for GH
#181 - GH's drama about self-sacrifical fantasies is so LAMIST (I agree)
#190 - Yet another bump for GH
#192 - Insignificant post
#197 - Eplaining to Dedo that RVS votes create pressure (Yes, they do)
#208 - Adressing Micro (No idea what this means, perhaps that there will be no extra show of upon request, plus clarification on Dedo even though Dedo & ZFR were mentioned for Micro's N/A)
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flubbucket: Eat a booger tough guy! I don't never have to show you nothing.

And why are you throwing gauntlets at dedoporno??
#209 - To Micro: "the sheer volume of text is daunting" (Ouch, he better not read mine)
Something about "low level narrative" manifestation in something (fruitful?)
#212 - Vote on Joe due to Lurkiness (OK)
#236 - 3 Votes on GH in less than 10 minutes, uncomfortable (Yeah, curious indeed)
#239 - Pointing out to Joe about erratic Voting (Actually, it's way too strange, is it how Joe usually play?)
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flubbucket: You list three players for bragging rights.
You say you're wanting to Vote for two other players.
You end up Voting for a whole other player.
#241 - It seems that Joe doesn't really care, Flub is happy with his explanation, kinda ;)
#251 - GH is at L-1 (Noticing and mentioning L-1 is always good in my book, why others didn't do that?)
#274 - Day 1 Ends

Flub - D2
#355 - IRL excuse for not hammering (Should I take it as is or not, no idea)
#357 - Insignificant post
#359 - To Lift, NL is bad (OK)
#360 - Insignificant post
#366 - Insignificant post
#376 - Explanation to GR about *key part of being Town* (It's not knowing, well yeah)
#377 - To Dedo, clarification request as to why there are 3 Mafia players (OK)
#382 - Further clarification to Dedo about math analysis regarding number of Mafia players, the * automatic math task* (I think I get it)
Flub wants a viable Lynch, not counting possibilities (OK)
#384 - A confirmation to Dedo about having list of prime suspects, and something to support it (He replied "Yes" to both)
#385 - GH, Joe, Mango(Cadaver), Micro are viable candidates for lynch, scarce info to support the list.
On the other hand Flub, Leoric and Dogmaus wagons will not be supported (I personally don't find Leoric and Dogmaus that good)
#386 - Lift was also added to the *no voting* list (I agree that Lift acted as proper Town)
#393 - Replace Mango(Cadaver), no comments
#417 - Vote on Joe due to Lurkiness (For a second time, yet Joe did lurked quite a bit)
#445 - ZFR's playstyle is good (I don't know, it's the same ZFR I remember, maybe)
#446 - To ZFR, Lift *wrecks* of Town (LOL, but I somewhat agree)
Oops, a double posting, same 2 posts duplicated into each other (not good)
#447 - Insignificant post
#468 - To Lift, Joe was extremely lurking lately, let's wait for him (I agree)
#471 - Unvote Joe (OK)
#473 - Insignificant post
#522 - To Dedo, a clarification about Catte
#576 - GymLifthrasil....or is it LiftHenson in response to Lift reply instead of Dedo (Did he put a soft shade on both of them, or it was just a joke?)
#579 - It seems that Flub doesn't like when someone else replies instead of original addressee (I also don't like it)
#581 - Dedo's explanation is fine
#582 - Adressing Joe (see below, I don't get it, probably nothing important)
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flubbucket: I'll admit the stunning flourish as you pass through the room is worth it.
GH is probably lying, acting as distraction but for whom, Mafia or Town, his posts are many (Good call, and ouch for the lenghty posts)
#583 - Again that post about *stunning flourish* (Is it a code or something?)
I see, it's another duplicate post, this time without editing into one plus a Vote on Joe (3rd this time, interesting)
#584 - Insignificant post
#585 - Insignificant post (or maybe not, but I didn't find it interesting, just in case here it is)
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flubbucket: So you see what happens is I'll copy/paste to the wrong window and then the inebriating starts all over again.

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ZFR: I was only scum once (#58) 15 games ago. You day-vigged me.
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flubbucket: I'm re-rolling the dice and they beg to differ.
#592 - Probing ZFR as to why he put his Vote on GH (Good point)
#601 - ZFR's explanation accepted
#606 - Cadaver is onto Leoric (Why? Who speaks English less good?)
#620 - Cadaver + Leoric on Scum team, impossible because I say so (OK I guess)
#622 - A polite brush away Joe about his Vote on him (Stylish)
#625 - To Joe, I'm not a scum (OK)

I can't seem to find any Red Flags, I don't remember playing with Flub to properly analyze his play style current game. Maybe I'll find something else by tomorrow morning. It's getting really late now and I can't feel myself (3 AM).

This is the last time I would *procure* such a long post analysis. Never again I would do that, shorter posts are much more effective in my opinion. I covered my list of 4 prime suspects anyway (deducting Micro-the-Cop and Mango-the-Cadaver, both of course can be Mafia > Dogmaus can you see it?). Almost 22 hours left for my morning list of voting nominees and some explanation, much shorter this time.
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ZFR: Actually, the first time I was targeted N1 was the game before it. I survived that NK, and that's when the curse started.
Haunted by the ghost of an unrealised NK.

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ZFR: Even by Joe's low standards.
Ouch, I felt that from over here.

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ZFR: No breadcrumbs here. Just a reference to a previous game where scum refused to NK an outed Cop who breadcrumbed this way. Against catte's-alter-ego's better judgment. SPOILER: They lost.
I can still feel the pain of it on cold winter nights.

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ZFR: ....WHEN HE'S NOT OUTED FIRST!!!
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JoeSapphire: ALRIGHT I'LL NOT CLAIM THEN SHALL I?
Does this mean you're getting divorced and I get two sets of birthday presents?


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Buhhh, I got nothing.

Joe seems maybe a bit more defensive than usual. ZFR seems to think that commuter would be a stupid claim for scum!Joe to make and Joe seems a bit more upset about that than he ought to be, like we actually have a scum!Joe feeling bad about his choice of claim.
I'm going to sleep on it, I'll be around tomorrow with plenty of time before deadline.
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Microfish_1: EBWOP

2) https://www.gog.com/forum/general/barefoot_essentials_3

@everyone: time is short (not tall) Please list your Final? suspects list As Soon As Humanly Possible!
Worst

Haiku

Ever
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ZFR: So many people said theyre willing to join.
I'm trying to put myself in your shoes, and I think it's because if you suggest someone other than GH/Dedo, it would be hard to convince people and time is not enough.

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ZFR: Because apparently not enough people believe it, and if we have to deal with it I'd rather do it now than at M/LYLO when it might cost us the game. Plus, always a chance he's lying and improved his scum game to resemble his town game.
Ah, here's the reason.

Since the cop landed his vote on GH, and people who voting GH (Lift,ZFR,Dedo) seemed townier to me:
Vote GymHenson
That put GH on L-1. I got it right this time.

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my name is supyreor catte: I'm going to sleep on it, I'll be around tomorrow with plenty of time before deadline.
Maybe you can place a vote on GH/Joe before you go, in case you don't have time tomorrow? ;)

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JoeSapphire: Why'd I think bookwyrm was town again?
Lift said so too. Ask him.
The cop, dog, catte all found Bookwyrm suspicious.
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ZFR: Never false-claim as Town. Unless you 100000% know what you're doing. Never this early in game.
Claim true or refuse to claim.
Even if your claim is a policy lynch one (Miller) claim it and take one for the team. Or refuse. Don't lie.

By lying you simply confuse everyone. Other town PR make bad decisions based on your claim.

What little advantage you gain by confusing scum, is not worth putting your whole team in jeaopardy.
Critical Point

Please reread.


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Cadaver747: Flub - Insignificant post
Nothing could be more descriptive.

You honor me.