Hm. Was going to argue with bookwyrm because I'd like to keep mafia wondering whether it's a good idea to try and go for me or not but I suppose bookwyrm was probably also right before about me kill not really being a priority for them.

I didn't commute Night One

Whatever stopped there from being a night kill, it wasn't me.

hahahaha. Hilarious. You always crack me up.

Also, thanks for saying I have moxies. I have no idea what they are, but by Joe's and catte's jealous reaction I think it's high praise.

Just went and double-checked and yeah I definitely told Pooka I wasn't commuting.



Moxies are basically like shiny pokemon cards.

Mmm, that was fairly unbalanced I suppose.

Was it D1?

Yes. Yogsloth figured out the game by D1, so Bookwyrm knew whom to shoot.

It was D3, moxiless

Tomorrow morning I'm going to randomly select one of the not voters and vote them.

Good night.

oh yeah voting I almost forgot about that.

unvote dedoporno

vote flubbucket

I was gonna vote lifthrasil but it didn't feel right.

bargh. My brain is frazzled.

Sorry, I tried to sleep, but this kept nagging at me.

Lovers. Brothers is what they claimed.

Good night.

D1 - 7 posts (only what I personally find interesting),

#37 - Vote No-Lynch
Nothing special even though I don't understand NL voting.
#152 - New Player
Leoric explained that he is a New Player, not very active due to busy week, that he is a good guy (Town claim?) and promised to post more often. He played only once about 2 years ago.
Another mention of him being a good guy, an excuse to not paying attention, and a promise to change that approach. LAMIST? New players tend to act that way and it's too early to decide but still.
#167 - First analysis
He is honest and naive. Leoric mentioned yet again that he is a good guy, and the good guy should be honest (another Town claim?).
Does it mean that Leoric played more than once, or that he considered Secret Hitler games separately from Mafia game (in which he participated only one time), or even that he played once but read some other games as spectator out of curiusity?
@Leoric, could you please clarify on that? Does it mean that you played GOG Mafia 1 time and Secret Hitler games a few times? How many games in total?

Micro is random, making no sense. (Huh?)

Book's so called *rolefish* could not be done by a bad guy because it's too bold. A bit far fetched but I think the very same way, only crazy Mafia would do that (Do crazy Mafia exists?)

Dogmaus would be suspicious if not for a *newbie card* (nothing about Mango at the same time, wasn't he also a new player?)

NL vote explained: I'm newbie, I think this is how things work on first round (D1 I presume). *Following the crowd* approach, not good but make sense for inexperienced player.

Yet Leoric insists on NL vote, Lift arguments were not good enough for him to dissuade from his vote so far. Random lynch might kill Town (Who would have thought?). Appeal to Pooka-the-Mod for additional explanation.
#170 - Understanding of NL
Leoric thanked others for the explanation, lynch is a better option now than NL.

Vote on Mango (me-the-other-me)
Seems like a semi-serious vote to counter ridiculous and broken ill-vote cast from Mango (that vote wasn't even considered as a vote).
#173 - Going after Mango for now
#211
Is it a self-belief (based on what exactly?) or a soft attempt at manipulation? I don't trust anyone, especially the person who tells others that he should be trusted. Could Mafia play *a newbie card*? Too risky I guess, yet how else should Leoric play being Town or Mafia? Hmm...
@Leoric, did you really think that most players trusted you back then or it was a figure of speech or something? Haven't you changed your mind since then? Lastly who do you think trusted in you on D1?

Leoric stated that everyone who liked his posts will get his attention. Too open, yet perfectly understandable given his experience.
A courtesy of GOG Mafia to not lynch new players on D1 because again *Following the crowd* approach. There is some logic in that of course, but what about making our own opinions? Perhaps it's too early for that.
#216 - Insignificant post.

Day 1 passed, no hammer, no vote change, IRL?

D2 - current round
#380 - Leoric was going to place his vote but forgot to do it (sounds almost like Mango's lame excuses). Was it done on purpose (lurking or choosing that particular reason to not attend)? Hard to say but I don't like it.
#387 - Ready to jump any wagon
Willingness to end the Day prematurely? Why?
Well, in my imagination an experienced Mafia player is indistinguishable from a Town player. But in reality it could be literally any play style. I don't get it, why Leoric is so open and willing to *Follow the crowd* yet he is fine with reading others based on his own *imagination*. Perhaps I'm biased, I just can't see logic here. Then again I was asking for Leoric's own opinion, I should be happy, I'm not.

Leoric decided to consider having a notepad for posts. And I agree with him on that reading all the posts is time consuming.
#389 - Probability theory
Leoric did a good job explaining GH his *2 times in a row Micro theory*. Kudos on that.
A hard claim of Town Alignment. And again how many Mafia games there were? Only 1 and the rest (4 or 5) are for Secret Hitler?
#392 - Vote on Micro
Leoric mentioned that his vote might be necessary because of possible IRL (he is a busy man, that would explain his rare posting).
Why? What's wrong with Micro???
Again why do you think most people believe you're Town? Because you declared so? This is not how it works, even a New Player should know that!
True, yet we can't tell if anyone else is Mafia or not. If you can now, then please tell me.
Some analysis on Dedo, Flub, ZFR.
Dedo and Flub probably Town because they are careful with reading posts and share their thoughts.
Since when Mafia is NOT careful with the same thing?
Leoric liked how ZFR stated that Mafia withhold the NK option seems unlikely (Smooth).
Book and Joe should be suspicious equally, but Joe more so. (Here I agree that Joe's posts were mostly joking)

And another statement about willingness to hammer anyone. (Frightening, this I can understand, but I would hammer only after a claim and at least a short discussion with others unless it's 5 minutes before EOD).

My verdict:
No significant help for Town, lurker during final phase of D1, lurker on D2 (yes, it could IRL), odd logic. Could be both an inexperienced Town or Mafia (but in this case it's even less smart).

Vote Leoric - Consider my attention for now and please reply to bold when (if) you can.

Preface to all: there are 3 pages of posts to go through, so replies to each user might get a bit long. Sorry for that.
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As I told others, I just get over the top when it comes to new things I try and etc. You should probably pay it no mind.

That said: if you or anyone else want to make me the lynch, then by all means.
(trivia time: I was somewhat thinking of helping to hammer myself on d1, to help remove myself as a distraction, but didn't want to play in such an anti town fashion)

You mean if scum knows whom the cop will be using their PR on, right?

If so: if players just give suggestions and the (claimed) town cop doesn't say which they're following up on(or even if they will follow up on any suggestion given), is it as bad for town?

Well obviously I might do such as scum, and you 're one smart cookie for keeping me on your suspects list.
(I also keep near everyone on my suspects list at most times as well)

My fixation on/voting for Joe is actually partly separate from my side flub/joe theory thing.

And it's for a number of reasons: one is that I have a hunch that one of the claims is likely to be false, and as Joe's claimed role is less valuable and also just feels a bit more "off" (vs Micro's) to me atm I am voting for them(and hoping I chose correctly of the two). I also voted for Joe because they had a sizable wagon against them at the time....unlike most other players i'd be willing to vote for....and I wanted to do my part to avoid another NL situation.

Still I don't think it's role madness or similar, so there's probably more vanilla than PRs.

If my lynch spared a better player(and/or a town PR) from being the lynch, or if an investigation of me removed me as a distracting element in the game, how are such not helpful to town?
(I admit my suggestions of such are LAMIST, though)

Have I said something LAMIST about every other post? Then it's prolly about normal.

Fact check status: mostly true
(he does seem to tend to suspect/vote me a good deal, no matter what I do...which to me seems a bit unwise.....other than that he seem to be a very careful player)

Okay, my response was to GH's question to you of
Does that explain things?

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I fully understand Dedo's reasoning in 527.

ROFL!!! Thanks for the laugh :D

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1) yes you did :)

2) wait, what?

(no votes in this post)
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The tone/wording I used in that post(309) indicates I was only half serious with that suspicion.
(though I did/do find some of his early posting to be a bit "off seeming")

No need to explain this to me....several others already explained probability/etc to me several pages back.
(though I thank you for making the effort here :))

I was/am trying to move a bit away from my selfish "want to stay in the game at all costs" ways.....and since I am vanilla I figured i'd offer myself up to possibly spare a town PR and/or better player.

That said, i'd prefer us to find scum and be able to stay in the game, if possible.

Reagan gets out a sharp Ax before realizing he might have misheard "Oh, you said BATMAN and not BATEMAN? My mistake"

#322 - If you wanted to be a team player then try to think out of the box more I guess, find the scum. What I see from you is self-reflection. Remember about the *Batman style* I suggested earlier.
#... - Some other posts which I can hardly analyze, or maybe I'm getting sleepy.

I have actually played a good portion of the start of that game(and it's one of my favorites, though I can never get myself to finish it as there's so much to do/see).

That said, noted: I will try not to distract you too much with silly bits in my replies to you. :)
(though i'd like to note as well that I do like to do a good deal of roleplay/flavor, as it makes the game more fun for me and some others, and it makes up for my lack of investigative play....which is my weak suit)

Hammer or no, you could of course still be scum.
(though I am leaning you more town than scum atm for things like your long winded analysis of my posts and etc)

My guess is that scum wants me around as a distraction.
(I said this before to other players, but saying it here in case you missed it and to answer this bit)

It is very bold, and imo it's likely that scum!Book wouldn't do such a thing.

That said, such bold mafias have existed(for example: we once had a mafia say they were in slytherin in the harry potter game near the start of the game, iirc).