nmillar: Actually, I'm with Lift on this one. I would include myself in a "scum is amongst these players" list, as without any undeniable proof, the rest of town should be considering me amongst the suspects.
I also would put myself in such a list but this (not yours in particular but Lift's original post towards Pooka) just sounds nitpicky for the sake of doing it.
Lifthrasil: See the difference? Yes, if you asked me whom I suspect as scum, I wouldn't suspect myself. But if you asked me who voted trent, I would include myself in that group!
Aren't those two things different? You obviously would never suspect yourself as scum regardless of whether you are one or not but you can't escape the fact that you voted for Trent so this comparison seems a bit weird. Or I'm not following correctly.
joppo: Sorry mates, I had an extremely tiring day yesterday (IRL) and felt sick on top of it, which is why when I got home I couldn't even reply to stuff I knew I had pending.
I hope you feel better now.
joppo: I meant that in the sense that,
opposed to you and the rest of the Trent voters, I didn't see much to think him scum. So in this scenario I believed in when I wrote that post scum!Trent hadn't fooled you but he fooled me enough that I wouldn't say he was scum when several others were more "certain" of it (as far as D1 certainty goes).
Of course this was all based on a wrong assumption to begin with.
The assumption that he has thrown the proverbial towel down as caught scum, correct? This is what annoys me - where did that assumption come from? Solely from the fact that Trent hammered himself? What about his closing words? Those made no sense in the context of him being scum so his alignment should have been still a question to you, who didn't think he was scum enough to vote. The self-hammer is scummy, OK, but there is no gain for Trent to go thespian like that and keep the façade just to mess with us (nor is he like that as a person/player but let's say you don't know him that well so you didn't know better).
This still looks weird to me and I feel you overdid it while trying to look surprised and not knowing what was about to happen.
joppo: I see no leads towards Mafia or Town in either side, but props go to Dedo for not accepting that easy undeserved towncred.
I'm not taking that, either. Especially from you. Sorry not sorry.
joppo: Lastly, I wanna point out that we're totally not looking at Nmillar and Micro. Lurkers are dangerous if Mafia. We'd better not forget about them.
That's a fair point. Nmillar seems to be back, sort of. I'm still waiting for Micro.
joppo: So I did not vote him, as opposed to ZFR, Dedo, Nmillar, Gym, Korotan and Lift, who were not fooled at all. Except that all of this relied on an assumption of Trent being scum that crumbled like a tissue tower on a rainstorm when the flip came.
Not voting for Trent is one thing and completely fine in itself (even more so in hindsight). Patting the wagoneers (is that a even a word?! It is now, madafaka!!) on the back for catching scum where you failed in the way you did is a whole different story and that's the issue here. Let me ask you something else. You say you asked for a bump but got distracted and didn't use it. What were you going to say if you did make use of it?
Were you expecting different?
Microfish_1: The test went well, and came out inconclusive, so we're waiting on biopsies to show stuff (no tumors, but also nothing obvious anywhere). T
No news - good news. I'm still rooting for your dad!
Microfish_1: the post right above me ZFR is voting joppo, which is...odd.
What do you find odd about it?
GymHenson: Also: Good points.....in fact it's one of my possible choices for d2(a nolynch vote)....gonna think a bit first, though.
Right now I'm thinking we can hold off on that NL one more day.