Clarification: In that bit you quoted I did mean bucktoothgamer.....as Bucktooth is the one who claimed the coward role.

(When I mean flubbucket I usually say flub for short, just for future reference)

It's likely scum is hiding among the lurkers.....but which one might it be, is the question.

(BTW just musing, but Hunter seems to be posting more than Catte and Korotan, and maybe more than dedo. Not sure if this means anything, but just wanted to mention it)

As in near the start of the day, and unexpectedly(to me, anyways).

I was just musing how both you and ZFR are seemingly both suspecting Trent now and seemingly giving blotunga more town lean.

(I could be misremembering some minor details and etc, but I am mostly certain...will look back later to confirm)

Gotta catch em all....pocket-mon? o.0

UGH! I stand corrected. I tried to correct you while in fact, it was me who confused "bucks" and took wrong notes. My apologies. :)

I need to read some parts again and re-order my conflicts list.

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Everyone is still shocked about Veronica's fate and attempts are made at finding out what happened at Night. But whom can one trust and who is misleading the others? Accusations fly back and forth. Theories are presented and rejected. You even forget about breakfast. But really, who wants to eat after having seen such a death? So you just keep talking and hope that you'll get closer to figuring out who the killers are.
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Vote Count

blotunga 2 - GH (871), bucktooth (896)
trent 1 - Joe (854)
Joe 1 - Engerek (910)

not voting: everyone else
With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Blotunga leads at L-5
The Day will end on Sunday afternoon/evening.

If you find errors, publish them.

Not a problem. Btw I think you might've confused that bit we just talked about with the fact that Blotunga (for some reason) confirmed/"confirmed" Flub was jailed by Vitek in Post 801(and also soft role claimed in the process).

Oh, you didn't get the memo about the new sub/clone for bucktooth? I thought OP told everyone? ;)

Hey, sorry for being late. Had a headache all afternoon and went to nap after I picked up my boy from kindergarten. Better now and catching up.

I have to go back and reread your interaction but earlier I remember I had the feeling you kind of hinted at him having a power. Leaving that aside I guess it's possible for him and flub to be scum together - flub being sheltered is quite convenient but blotunga's claim is giving a lot more credence to it if true. Four possibilities there:

- Town!blotunga confirms Town!flub's story - possible
- Town!blotinga confirms scum!flub's story - possible
- scum!blotunga confirms scum!flub's story - possible
- scum!blotinga confirms Town!flub's story - no sense to do so

Still, I don't see why scum!blotinga would be frightened by you talking about senders and them potentially having PRs to a point where he feels like he should make a claim to make himself look better. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.


No? I thought you yelled at everyone for stripping you of the chance to use the role and then you didn't use it after all?


That's actually a really good point. We have the numbers and the trade-off would likely have worked in our favor and would have cleared you.


It does.


But now you're in a situation where things don't look good so you may be lynched instead of killed and another Townie still died. This may sound hard but if they had actually killed you things could have been slightly clearer and they aren't right now.


Sherriff Marcus from F2. He's not a Coward but names should be irrelevant when it comes to roles and alignment as per Lift's posts.


The chance of actually empowering the killer scum was 1/13. You could have helped prevented the kill, make Joe a lady (I need that done, by the way), etc. That's pretty good chance and the worst case scenario where you did help the kill honestly isn't that terrible as they may have killed two others than you in or in the very worst case we wouldn't have been talking about this right now.


Because I thought he was scum who didn't bother to read the OP and just went for a free reason to "sus" (already using the Among Us lingo!!) someone. I'm now regretting I bought into his claim at all and I think my original gut feeling was correct and he is scum yet again.


I never understood what people had against Vitek. He didn't look scummy to me at all. Not the most Towny but certainly not a top scum pick.

I think either only Trent is scum or both of them are.

That was in flavor though so it can be missed pretty easily. Is there anything else you're basing your vote on?

All caught up.

I think we are still missing Korotan but right now I'm comfortable with


vote Trent

Glad yer feeling better.

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As to why a scum!blotunga might not want me listing senders, as I told Joe: to keep me from drawing attention their way from fellow town maybe.

Btw Blotunga didn't soft claim until after both I had started to suspect them AND flub said they had been jailed by Vitek....maybe he felt some "heat" from my direction re: my suspicions of him?

As to possible reasons for a scum!Blotunga to clear Flub:

If Flub is town: To confirm Flub's jailing in order to attempt to appear town to him and other town?

If Flub is scum: To make Flub/Blotunga appear more town to others perhaps?

Of course there is a small chance Blotunga is town, and i've made a mistake in my leans....and yes I did so with NMIllar as well.....but I feel confident this time(call it a gut feeling) so i'll be keeping Blotunga on my suspect list.

Wouldn't any scum be able to carry out a NK, and thus the odds of Trent empowering a scum be a bit higher than 1/13?

So you're also willing to cause us to maybe lose a valuable boon to town(if trent is telling the truth and town)?

Vote trent

This will answer many questions.

If scum, then Lift giving them safe-claims is pretty much confirmed, since I doubt any scum would risk claiming Handyman, unless it's safe. This confirmation will help us a lot when analysing other and later claims. For example, is that Coward who so conveniently hid behind the dead person a real Coward or a safe-claim Coward?

By the way, I don't believe at all bucktooth was targeted and not Vitek. No scum team would target a new player on N1 unless he was a major threat to them. This doesn't of course mean bucktooth is scum.

Also, if trent is scum, I want a closer look at Joe.

But others don't know if flub is Town. He's neutral at best in my opinion. Vitek apparently was suspicious of him as he jailed him (I doubt he was trying to protect him).

Obviously any scum can do the kill but only one (out of thirteen players) can be the one actually doing it.

No, the actual chances of helping scum was 3 or 4 out of 12 because any scum in any game I've played has had the ability to do the NK. I also highly doubt scum would have left me alive if I had given them the ability to do 2 NK's as it would immediately get one of them lynched.

Sure you can empower ANY scum but only one of them is doing an actual kill. The other one is supposedly infecting people and the other(s) do whatever else. So the chance of the actual kill is 1/13, no? Two infected would have been great actually as we would have you confirmed and a scum exposed.

It's still not 1 in 13, it's still 3 or 4 (depending on how many scum there are) out of 13. I can certainly tell you that if I was scum then as soon as I was given the ability to do 2 night actions it would be two night kills.