huh.

Pooka's definitely not trying to save himself, his play seems like a distraction to me. Town pooka wouldn't vote himself to avoid no-lynch because he would know that his wagon would basically end up being dirty in terms of what we learn from it.

My feeling was he's either distracting from other wagons by bringing back the same self vote drama so that he can either best case scenario lead wagons nowhere or worst case scenario just sacrifice himself.

Now that I look at it again, flub wasn't in a bad position to warrant that. I definitely don't know what else to make of his self vote at this point. Sorry if it sounds a little harebrained.

Due to how I read/read into things, such "replies" ping my scum dar.

So in the future you should probably me DIRECTLY your stance on ideas I suggest, if you want me(due to how I play) to not suspect you needlessly.

And this is somewhat what I meant when I said some people play in tight little boxes:

You, I am guessing, brush many of my ideas and posts off by default...due to your mindset and etc....if you're town then that is imo probably more of a hinderance than help to town.

In that game I pushed my own wagons, but they went nowhere most times, so I went with whomever everyone else wanted a few times when that plan didn't work.

More likely scum!pooka than town!pooka, imo.
(Though of course, there is a chance I am wrong....and if I am people can feel free to enact whatever punishment they deem sufficient)

I mean I agree that not having a lynch D1 would a bad thing, wont the wagon analysis be real messy when the main reason for people voting you is just the quirk of "they voted for themselves". Even if we do secure the lynch, what kind of useful info can we pull out of who voted for you.

The only way this action helps the town is if you end up being scum...and at that point im afraid of what kind of strategy cooked up that they would willingly feed one of their own to the grinder day 1.

I have to get the kids to bed so time to choose.

vote pooka
Sorry, but self vote is always a bad idea and better remove the distraction if you want to keep self sabotaging yourself

So at what point? Now(that Blot voted)? L-2?

Just so we know when you'd be willing to make said claim.

My feeling is that if Pooka is scum it's to dissuade people from voting and either cause another player to be lynched or a nolynch.

Man, I wish I was part of such a scumteam.

Alright, prepare yourselves for the most disappointing claim in the world:

I'm vanilla town.

In fact, that's also part of my motivation for packing up and going. In fact, I should have been lurkier in the hopes that Mafia picked me during the night, but, ahem. I'm bad at this.

I might not be around, will be likely busy with tucking the kids in. Anyway if someone gets lynched, I think it's pooka. I will try to look in in about 30 minutes or so, maybe to change my mind if needed and still can.

If they turn out scum(or town) we can look at who voted them or not, and when(and why, if they list reasons for such).....same with any wagon I assume.

If Pooka is scum they could be hoping people back off or at least don't push the lynch through, or that if Pooka got lynched they could somehow still win(if Pooka is scum).

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(Bump needed)

lol

Bump, I will check back again in 30-45 mins and do a final vote before going to bed.

(@OP: No votes in this post)
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To all: This lamist or no? Seems like it.

(I am actually asking, as it seems so but I dunno100%)

Vanilla town?

What's your name then?

Or is that all you're willing to share?

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Also to all: What are the odds we'd get an actual vanilla town to claim in a role madness setup? Anyone have rough idea on the odds?

@pooka: a name please also.

Btw I'm not sure we have time to do a different lynch. I honestly don't know what would be the best move. I still feel that this is going to be a distraction regardless about the veracity of the claim.