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GymHenson: If he is PR having town!Catte and could prove me scum, however, i'm guessing he'd have been telling everyone and anyone at this point...what with town being even closer to a loss. As he hasn't yet, I find the possibility of him being town to be somewhat low.
If catte were town PR he could be telling everyone you are scum?
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phaolo: - Lift- doesn't *feel* scummy. He contributed lyncing 2 towns tho.. but so did the townie gogtrial.
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- dedo- tried to be less absent in the end, but not by much. Position still unknown. Killed 2 towns too.
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- Vitek- not super present. I didn't like that last sudden lynch. Killed 2 towns too. .
I don't like how Lift is presented as someone who "contributed lynching 2 towns" but Vitek and myself are people who straight up "killed 2 towns". And the gogtrial-being-wrong excuse is only used in the context of Lift.


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Vitek: If catte were town PR he could be telling everyone you are scum?
Sorry for barging in but why are you quoting and responding to (?) something so old? Is this a wrong quotation or are you going somewhere with this?
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dedoporno: Sorry for barging in but why are you quoting and responding to (?) something so old? Is this a wrong quotation or are you going somewhere with this?
I was reading through Today posts to see if there is perhaps something I have missed and this caught my attention.
I asked about it to see if I am perhaps understanding it wrong. Because the way I read it, it considers option catte could be considered town in case he would have positive scum result on GH. As if it was possible option for GH.
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dedoporno: I don't like how Lift is presented as someone who "contributed lynching 2 towns" but Vitek and myself are people who straight up "killed 2 towns". And the gogtrial-being-wrong excuse is only used in the context of Lift.
I simply summarized the concept afterwards, to avoid writing the same long thing 3 times..
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Lifthrasil: Let me guess: it's on you being scum yourself? ;-)

Jokes aside: I agree with GH, that it looks very strange how you removed your vote from Catte as soon as I took an interest in pushing him. Was your vote just a distancing attempt? Or did you want to get a ball on a Town!Catte rolling and then removed yourself from it to preserve the possibility to quickhammer? In any case it doesn't look very towny of you.
How did you guess? Nothing in the rules to say I can't bet against myself!

I removed my vote on Catte, and moved it to GH after re-reading some older posts, and something caught my attention witch prompted me to change my stance. This doesn't mean I'm entirely convinced that Catte is town (using the same crumbing method as the last game is far too obvious), but I'm more convinced that GH is scum at this stage. If I'm wrong, then Micro must be scum as GH hasn't been quick lynched to end the game.

To be honest, I'm amazed that nobody else has picked up on a fairly obvious crumb, which leads me to believe that some of the more experienced players are deliberately ignoring it, and are the scum team, so it wouldn't surprise me if Lift and Micro are both scum, in which case it is perfectly plausible that GH is a mislead townie, and perhaps someone who has gone under the radar is the third scum candidate. Phaolo perhaps?
Hello! I'm back after an early night and a busy day!

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Vitek: How come you remember it?
Because...

Please note, that is not a claim for this game, just proof that such things exist and there might have been reason for mafia to think it was what was going on.

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Vitek: I am still trying to figure it out. I believe there is certainly at least one scum among the three of you (you, nmillar, GH) but I highly doubt all of you could be in league together so I'd better sort you out first.

I can think of reason why you acted the way you did as town and I would be inclined to believe it but there is still possibility of mafia making false crumbs and the way you were so coy about it makes me wary of it.
I agree, it feels like one of nmillar or GH is scum. It's unlikely to be both unless there's actual bussing going on here. I'm not sure about nmillar's u-turn here.

I was coy because denying things is slightly less likely to get me NK than outright saying "SHHHHHHHHHHH!".

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GymHenson: (Also it would've given Blotunga a chance to post reads, most likely...they did show up a bit after hammer, after all)
The fact that Blotunga showed up after the hammer but before the lunch scene meant that he could have posted reads so I don't see the problem in that sense.

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Lifthrasil: @Catte: how many people are 'enough people' before you are willing to spill your beans all over me?
Save it for the bedroom!

Seriously though, I dunno. A majority, same way a lynch works? If 5 people want beans, then beans they shall have.

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GymHenson: If he is PR having town!Catte and could prove me scum, however, i'm guessing he'd have been telling everyone and anyone at this point...what with town being even closer to a loss. As he hasn't yet, I find the possibility of him being town to be somewhat low.
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Vitek: If catte were town PR he could be telling everyone you are scum?
Ok, that's certainly some some interesting wording on GH's part. I'm definitely interested in his response to that.

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nmillar: To be honest, I'm amazed that nobody else has picked up on a fairly obvious crumb,
Other than my alleged breadcrumbs? I guess I need to pay more attention.
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my name is magike catte: Other than my alleged breadcrumbs? I guess I need to pay more attention.
Or somebody really needs to speak to the IT department about purchasing some new keyboards.
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phaolo: I simply summarized the concept afterwards, to avoid writing the same long thing 3 times..
Aha.


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nmillar: I removed my vote on Catte, and moved it to GH after re-reading some older posts, and something caught my attention witch prompted me to change my stance. This doesn't mean I'm entirely convinced that Catte is town (using the same crumbing method as the last game is far too obvious), but I'm more convinced that GH is scum at this stage. If I'm wrong, then Micro must be scum as GH hasn't been quick lynched to end the game.

To be honest, I'm amazed that nobody else has picked up on a fairly obvious crumb, which leads me to believe that some of the more experienced players are deliberately ignoring it, and are the scum team, so it wouldn't surprise me if Lift and Micro are both scum, in which case it is perfectly plausible that GH is a mislead townie, and perhaps someone who has gone under the radar is the third scum candidate. Phaolo perhaps?
This actually made me smile as I thought it's rather clever but I thought about it and I realized I'm likely reading it in a wrong way. I can explain why I liked it but I don't want to "break" whatever it is you think you saw if it happens to be connected to what I thought it was all about at first.

And no, I haven't noticed anything but it's definitely not by intent. I'm not good with breadcrumbs so I don't do them and don't look for them actively.

So, are you going to share something that might help us get out of the sticky situation or do you think people will take your word for it and vote GH hoping to get it right?


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Vitek: I was reading through Today posts to see if there is perhaps something I have missed and this caught my attention.
I asked about it to see if I am perhaps understanding it wrong. Because the way I read it, it considers option catte could be considered town in case he would have positive scum result on GH. As if it was possible option for GH.
Oooh, now I get it. I had to reread that 4 times before I understood what you meant by now I do. I was about to retort that Catte obviously isn't hinting at GH being scum as he probably would have stated so by now in the face of MYLO. I entirely ignored the aspect that GH is considering the scenario at all as a possibility. That's a good observation.
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my name is magike catte: Other than my alleged breadcrumbs? I guess I need to pay more attention.
Right, I'm going to need you to clarify. Have you crumbed anything other than the two alleged crumbs already mentioned?
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nmillar: Right, I'm going to need you to clarify. Have you crumbed anything other than the two alleged crumbs already mentioned?
Quite possibly, although I'm not sure why you think it's a good idea to bring it up.
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nmillar: Right, I'm going to need you to clarify. Have you crumbed anything other than the two alleged crumbs already mentioned?
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my name is magike catte: Quite possibly, although I'm not sure why you think it's a good idea to bring it up.
Because we can not afford another mislynch?
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my name is magike catte: I was coy because denying things is slightly less likely to get me NK than outright saying "SHHHHHHHHHHH!".
Only you didn't actually deny it. If you are Town, you have already painted a target on your own back with your capitalization and evasive statements about that. As experienced player, you know that. Also, if those caps would have been a random typing accident, you would have straight up said so.

Of course as scum you wouldn't care about painting a target on your back, because you would know that your buddies won't NK you. Of course, Tomorrow, if the game continues, it will look suspicious if you are still alive. But if you are Scum, you might only need to survive Today and get another mislynch done to win the game. Then it won't matter how you would look Tomorrow. So your 'crumb/not crumb' may very well be Scum!Catte trying to look important enough to be left alive and direct the attention to one of the other main suspects. Without making an actual claim that could be falsified.


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my name is magike catte: Other than my alleged breadcrumbs? I guess I need to pay more attention.
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nmillar: Right, I'm going to need you to clarify. Have you crumbed anything other than the two alleged crumbs already mentioned?
I'll put this question right back at you: do you think you have noticed more crumbs from Catte or someone else? No, don't say what they are or from whom. Just a yes/no answer. Also: why do you bring up 'obvious' crumbs? If you detected any beyond the caps thing, they aren't obvious to me. So what was the point of your statement and question?
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Lifthrasil: I'll put this question right back at you: do you think you have noticed more crumbs from Catte or someone else? No, don't say what they are or from whom. Just a yes/no answer. Also: why do you bring up 'obvious' crumbs? If you detected any beyond the caps thing, they aren't obvious to me. So what was the point of your statement and question?
Yes, I believe I have spotted a further crumb, and I also believe dedo has figured out my not so subtle hint.

Thinking about it logically, Catte could quite easily have used his crumbs to paint a target on either myself or GH (the already discussed crumbs began with a G and an N, and we're the only remaining players with names beginning with those letters), and effectively ended the game as scum. As he hasn't done so, he must therefore be town (or scum just toying with us).
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Vitek: Looking it up can help. Try it yourself, sometimes.
Through over 900 posts to find that one post? Maybe if it were less posts it'd be a more reasonable request......I asked you, though, as you pointed it out & likely knew where it was & could link it to save me some time.

That said, thanks for that.

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Vitek: i don't get you. It was joke.
My memory could be rusty, but aren't you usually a player who's more "down to brass tacks" and "serious" with these games?

You've been awfully lax with us being close to losing, hammered quickly and helped us lose a town player for flimsy reasons, have been posting some oddly toned and worded posts to me(and maybe others...would need to check) as of late.....to me it doesn't add up, and i'm left scratching my head.

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Vitek: Hehe, hello, scum, thanks for fessing up.
What are you talking about? I was asking if such a thing was possible in mafia games in general, to see if there was such a role and if it was possible you might have such a role......in part to figure out some of your posts as of late.

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Vitek: Sigh, I seriously can't tell if you really don't get the difference or you are just faking not getting the point to get away with it.
I am quite "dense" sometimes and some things fly over my head(it's part of why I don't do so well in these games)....explain it to me, then(if you'd be so kind), what you think I don't get.

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Vitek: You seem to be strangely convinced that if you were to allowed to hammer it would give some sort of read on you.
No, again: If you are town and suspect me then imo it'd have been in your best interest to wait and see if i'd have followed through with my intended hammer first.

(Bump needed)
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nmillar: Yet, it hasn't happened, so what does that tell us? Either you are scum, or at least one person on the wagon is (Micro and myself). I know where my money is.
My money is on one of you(likely you) being scum, and the other(likely micro) being town.....and i'm betting if one more town joins on the other two scum(if there are 3) will follow in short order to hammer and win the game.

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nmillar: Anyway, about to make a dash for the border, so won't be able to post for a while.

I'll address your list of "reasons" later.
Ok then.

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nmillar: I removed my vote on Catte, and moved it to GH after re-reading some older posts, and something caught my attention witch prompted me to change my stance.
What was it, then, if I may ask?

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nmillar: This doesn't mean I'm entirely convinced that Catte is town (using the same crumbing method as the last game is far too obvious), but I'm more convinced that GH is scum at this stage. If I'm wrong, then Micro must be scum as GH hasn't been quick lynched to end the game.
Wouldn't it be a hoot(owl puns ftw) if we were both town and had been focusing on each other while the scum team laughed behind our backs?

I mean, I still think you're scum, but i'm half tempted to vote myself and let the other 2 scum(if 1 is on the wagon already) just hammer so we can move to the after party.

Know this, if you're town then sorry for focusing so much on you...and sorry to the rest of town.

If you're scum: Eh, I tried my best, town should've listened to me more and maybe paid my ideas some heed for once...yada yada yada.

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nmillar: To be honest, I'm amazed that nobody else has picked up on a fairly obvious crumb, which leads me to believe that some of the more experienced players are deliberately ignoring it, and are the scum team, so it wouldn't surprise me if Lift and Micro are both scum, in which case it is perfectly plausible that GH is a mislead townie, and perhaps someone who has gone under the radar is the third scum candidate. Phaolo perhaps?
Who knows...if Phaolo is scum, though, then I applaud them for doing well their first(afaik) game.

Also btw: Where those responses to my reasons for suspecting you be at? o.0

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nmillar: Because we can not afford another mislynch?
Yet you're willing to vote me.....and get me to within 3 votes of lynch.....which is essentially L-1(afaik) if there's 1 scum on the wagon already and 3 in the game total.