I take issue with some of GH's reasoning. Collecting all the relevant quotes here for easy reference:
GymHenson: Yeah, I don't want to lynch someone who is sick IRL and who seems to be in such a "slump" as Trent is.....and with him seemingly being okay with it(if I read his posts correctly) there's a chance he could be town and this could be a mislynch.....but we need a wagon and lynch for the more competent town players to analyze, and this lynch seems to be as good as almost any other (to me)
my name is magike catte: Ok, looking at the trent wagon there I'm not happy with the speed at which people piled on in the latter half. Not specifically Lift, but dedo and GH climbed on with a certain eagerness. Those votes came very fast and we had many hours until the deadline.
GymHenson: We had around 10 hours, and not everyone can be online at the same time due to IRL....so not much time to get another wagon going.
(Although seeing Trent's flip, I now think a nolynch would have likely been more preferable in that particular instance)
gogtrial34987: Take me through your reasoning here? Why would nolynch have been preferable over trent's flip "in that particular instance"?
GymHenson: We'd have one more town to help find scum....albeit one who was possibly losing interest in the game...that's about it.
I would have preferred one of my suspects, actually.....now we have one less town...but what's done is done, and we need to move on and find scum.
gogtrial34987: So... how is that different from any other mislynch instance? Do you not hold with the common belief that a mislynch on D1 is preferable over nolynch, or ...?
GymHenson: Dunno how to answer this atm [...]
I will say this much, though: I was hoping with my vote and warning to others not to hammer that players would hold off for a bit, and then hopefully Trent would come on & give us their thoughts/reads & maybe give us something to work with so we could choose another lynch candidate before end of D1.
Lifthrasil: Trent was a goner anyhow so all scum had to do was wait for Town to hammer (which I did) - and even if none of us would have hammered, it would have ended in a no-lynch and Scum would have rejoiced even more. So, if I were Scum, hammering in such an unnecessary way, thereby drawing attention, would be very stupid indeed.
GymHenson: Trent being a goner wasn't so foregone a conclusion.....we had around 10 hours or so left to reach majority, so it's possible the day could've ended in nolynch had you not hammered and everyove had listened to my plea to give Trent time to reply.
That said, you're saying scum would've been happy with 1 town dead(NK) instead of two as it is now(mislynch and NK).....really? In what world does that make a lick of sense?
So you're saying (please correct me if I'm wrong with any of this):
#370: there's a chance trent could be town
#370: despite this, we
need a wagon to analyze
#370: this lynch is as good as almost any other
#429: 10 hours wasn't enough time to get another wagon going
#429: seeing how trent is town, nolynch would've been preferable
#433: nolynch would've been preferable, so we'd have another town player
#443: you don't know if you believe that mislynch is preferable over nolynch
#443: you were hoping that trent would say something so another lynch could happen
#482: with only 10 hours to go, nolynch was a real possibility
#482: scum would always prefer mislynch over nolynch
Questions I have:
- Why in #370 did you vote for trent, rather than trying to convince people to vote for your preferred candidates?
- Given #443, what were you hoping/expecting trent to say (if left unhammered) that'd make another wagon viable within 10 hours?
- In #370 you appeared to accept the possibility of a mislynch on town!trent as worth it so the wagon can be analyzed. In #429/#433 you appeared to have preferred nolynch over mislynch. In #443 you appeared not to know if you prefer nolynch over mislynch. In #482 you appeared to say that scum would prefer mislynch over nolynch. How do you explain this... inconsistency?
gogtrial34987: It does cast you moving to trent's wagon in a new light, though...
GymHenson: If you could explain this post and what you meant a bit more I would appreciate it.
If you're scum, and you believe a mislynch is more in your benefit than nolynch, than you'd have a reason to abandon nmillar's wagon even if he were town.
GymHenson: (Also if yer trying to say I am scum!GH going for easy lynches.....then you haven't been paying attention to the tells of my past games as scum)
Or maybe I've been paying attention to the tells of your past games as town?
Your game is decidedly different. I approve, but it makes it hard to figure you out based on meta.
