I'll turn your question around at you. What about you? If you are town, do you think this read is coming from scum trent or town trent? If you were were scum, do you think that you have or could fool a town-trent enough to mislead him? I was going to question you about lift, but then you went ahead and said you couldn't read him accurately. I didn't play 55, nor have I read it. Could you please summarize how you knew Scene was scum? Gut? Concrete knowledge or abstract knowledge based off of assumptions?
No comment about your Stanley hotel game, as I don't recall many details.

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have you voted for anyone yet? Do you think this is scum catte? nuetral catte? tired town catte? Do you think NMillar was odd enough to warrant a vote?
Your thoughts please on Trent Gogtrial & Joe?

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I am voting Joe but think the concensus (no doubt with at least one scum helping the narrative, so i have to be cautious here) is we have enough people questioning gogtrial to actually achieve a non-last minute lunch, and so am willing to switch to him, if only to avoid the dreaded NL and the connected lack of information.

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You did read my reasoning? no secret message, just ordering my thoughts in alphabetical order and bolding those point letters, plus the mental game to see if i could?

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I would, but I was also voting and if the player is voting, i see it as a "i'm voting X, but I'm giving notice that I'm taking a close hard look at Y". Which I was, or so I thought.

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rephrasing to hopefully fix the quotes

Yea, sorry about that, was playing Pathfinder until late. I am quite undecided about whom to vote, but pressure is good so let's pile some.

vote nmillar

Yes, I'm aware I'm third, but at the moment I have no better ideas to get out of this stalemate.

If there are no objections, I'm going to oficially set the Day end on Tuesday 8pm UTC. Please let me know if there are any issues.

Sorry for like like that. I'm back now, will catch up today and resume posting normally.

I says what I means and I means what I says.

I got kind of confused from your explanation about the games as I believe you had a mistake in one of the numberings. Were you scum (or at least anti-Town) in that game you refer to in the quote above?


Oh I missed that, OK then, thanks.


I don't have anyone sticking out terribly, only minor things here and there.

Joe is tingling my... Never mind, work before play. He feels weird - like scum Joe who overdid it, got called out and came up with one of his logical chains to try and get out of the situation. So he's an option.

I also really don't appreciate your own #152. It rubs me in a wrong way because it feels like shading and that makes other things look in a similar way. For example this:

You feel like scum!Lift to me who is trying to make something stick.

Nmillar doesn't seem to partake a whole lot and apparently is sticking to his "usual" D1 where he'd vote Catte and then go with the flow. I think that's pretty much how it went last game and he was Town back then so I wouldn't say his lack of serious engagement is AI. I wouldn't vote for him based on that as that would be nothing other than punishment for his way of playing D1. I'd vote him to get a lynch, though.

At this point I'd vote pretty much anyone but myself but I have a slight preference for you, Lift, and Joe. Here goes.


votus Lift


No objection on my part.

I believe in literary terms this construct is called "Projection".

Also: *poke* you haven't posted in two days!

I corrected the numbering mistake with an EBWOP, but yes, I was anti-town (and anti-mafia) in #55, which is where I haunted scene. (I was Neutral in #65.)

Random accusations are all anyone ever has on D1. Everyone should be suspicious of anything!
What's potentially significant is who avoids whom, who seems to forget about previously voiced feelings and jumps to a new narrative, etc. In order to observe such slips, we need activity and interaction. It's completely in town's benefit to make certain this is happening.

The answer is:
-3 because I need input to analyze and in that way contribute to town's hopful victory, and none was happening on its own.

That feels like a complete cop out.
If you're town, you don't know if trent is town or scum. But surely you can hypothesize about either scenario? If he dies in a day or two, he'll flip, and then you can go back to today's interactions and draw conclusions from it. All I'm asking you to do is to do so right now, so we can see what things you find important, as well as your consistency of thought, and not letting you get away with keeping all hiding places open just because you're one of those lucky newbies to have drawn scum in their first game.

For example, I drew the conclusion that if trent is scum, blotunga isn't.

Now you go.

You have a strange definition of "pro-town". My summary of the reactions and spin-off discussions from trent's statement was completely factual; anyone would be able to give such a summary from either alignment. All it was intended to do, was to show you that contrary to your statement, something was indeed happening, and could be looked at already.
The focus on trent was just because this was the clearest example with the most wide-ranging effects so far. I'd be equally happy for you to pick any other interaction and give your thoughts about them instead.
Also, if you're town, please try to observe things without letting it be colored by pre-conceived notions! Scum can and will try to make use of these things.

These are a good start! This is what we want from you!

When you say "haunted" what do you mean exactly?

I always find it difficult to become fully engaged in D1. It's generally a matter of jumping on someone's weird sounding post and getting a lynch off the back of it just to gain some information. D2 is when it gets interesting, as the night results compared to people's voting patterns in D1 will generally offer some clues.

About time I came out of RVS.

Unvote GymHenson

I didn't get off his case. I knew he was scum (someone asked me about that, which I'll get to properly in a bit, but as my lover Joe was mafia, I knew the composition of the entire mafia team), and I wanted the town-points for uncovering scum, so I kept poking at every post he made, pointing out every inconsistency in reasoning, etc. My play style involves reasonably long-winded back-and-forths anyway (I miss HSL!), but with scene it was a bit more so; purposefully trying to "set him up" with some leading questions. If anything, I think it's that which trent noticed and retained as the difference in my play style.

Is it? Trent's argument appears to be that you are more likely to be proactive when Town and more reactive when not, therefore he gives you a Town read. The situation you're referring to seems to discredit this line of thinking.

No, the way I read his argument is the opposite of that. You're probably basing your interpretation on his original
but he clarified that in:

Finally ten minutes!
But!, that explanation doesn't fit with him town-reading me, as here I was very much not being reactive!

(I was focused too much on how his explanation might indeed be something I do as anti-town, and not enough on how it applies to his actions wrt the current game.)