Joppo is back online again. Taking his sweet time...

Wait, what?? Did I enter a pipe in super Mario world and surfaced in CrazyTown?

I'll tell you this once: I'm always online. Even when I'm not at the computer, in fact even while I'm at work there's always a tab open and logged on Gog at my home computer. I rarely ever log off and I can't remember the last time I had to input my Gog password. I have no idea why you thought you saw me offline when I was just reading previous pages of this thread, except that Gog's system is certainly not 100% reliable about it.
It's a pity no one ever told you before except the effing dozen times you were told so in the Stanley hotel game and you conveniently constantly ignored (this link is a nice little reminder that I'm not pulling this information out of my ass).

Anyways

You have me at a disadvantage here. I believe you we're at MyLo, but even then I am still catching up. You have information of past days I do not possess... Heck, I barely looked above and saw that Lift was yesterDay's kill. Even if we're at MyLo, the Day just started. You can wait a few more hours. So I will NOT say anything more until I have all the proper info I should have if I had played the game from D1.

There's nothing to catch up on. You are trying to buy time.

All vanilla townies have claimed or died. The remaining players are either scum or power roles.

That's an important if, and not one we can find out the answer to without the cop outing themselves. Still, suggesting a massclaim is one of the less crazy things you've done in this game.

How about we discuss it before you start pressuring people who've just joined the game though?

It's MyLo. We have 3/3 town power roles alive, and 2/2 vanilla townies claimed. What more is there to discuss?

Claim immediately.

Do not bother posting unless you are going to claim. Anything else you have to say is unimportant.

So when we have 5 vanilla claims and 3 town powers claimed, then what? If we don't have useful cop results then we take a 3/5 chance and lynch a claimed vanilla. They're not the worst odds in the world, but I'm a bit suspicious of how hard and fast you're pushing this. Perhaps I'm giving you too much credit, but it feels like there's something we've not spotted yet and you're trying to get a massclaim going before we spot it.

It's 04:50, the only thing I'm doing immediately is going to bed.

We are in MYLO with three power roles. Why would you not claim?

What do you think? Can you think of a single reason to hold off claiming that wouldn't help scum?

Before you go, you are not counter claiming?

Thanks for joining the game. What do you think of my claim?

Ugh, why do I keep checking the thread instead of going to sleep?

I'm not against the idea, I'm just not on board with it without discussion. It's too late for me to do any serious thinking, so all I'm left with is the big pile of "nope" that Laser's manner fills me with.

You should only be worried about being counterclaimed if you're not the cop. If you're the cop then you know you're telling the truth about that. Why would you expect me to counterclaim?

Of course the scum could also just choose to claim town power roles and we'd be left in a "don't shoot me, I'm the real X, they're the fake!" situation. Then there's the matter of the redirector. It's a long shot but if they got it right then the cop results could be all fucked up. I'm not up for proceeding without proper discussion.

And with that I really am going to bed.

I am not worried about scum counter claiming, I am waiting to see if they do. The fact that you didn't is what is important right now.

And yes, the possibility of the redirection will certainly play a factor in our discussion. I expect it to be a lengthy conversation.

SirP is talking loads of bullshit right now

1. Mass claims are standard practice in MyLo. How could I possibly be tricking him?
2. Cristi already claimed cop, and he still wants to have a discussion about mass claiming? Too late.
3. If he is actually vanilla town, it would prove that either me or Scene had lied. Why wouldn't he want that?
4. The chance of a redirection is so low, that I question his motivations for even bringing it up.