Check "lazy mafia did not do his homework and chose the wrong guys for accusation".

Plus, bumped.

That's all and good if you are town. But if you are scum, it gives you an out to tailor your reads based on the outcome and not have to fabricate something that might be perceived as such.

Would you point me to the reads you made today? The last significant ones I remember are from D1.

I tried an ISO an am missing it. Was it D1 or 2? I remember not like it initially. Do you remember where that was?


Anyone who thinks Laser is scum should vote for him. But saying that you (any player) are voitng for him as a policy lynch or we need the information, just gives scum an excuse to vote and not take any heat for it. There is enough on the board by this point that everyone should be able to pick a scum suspect.

There is something unsettling about D-2: No one ever made any analysis of the bandwagon for Micro. So what was he taken to lunch for?

Who went to placeholder bandwagons that were doomed to go nowhere, and then abandoned them on D-2, "just because"? Talk about not keeping all eggs in the same basket.

Have you thought of the implications of the flip of each of the four bandwagons of today? It turns out that the ones who would be most revealing are those I would like less to happen. Hopefully they do not come to be.

Still. No more free lunches.

It's post 476 early on D2. I had actually forgotten about this particular one but at the time it contributed to my feelings regarding LASER.

Thanks!

Yes, as sentence which proves what I've told nothing more, nothing less. That's how it works, people don't quote everything in full.
But if you insist I'll give the full quote:
SPF mentioned that a shot can be wasted on possible bulletproof Laser. > OK.
Lynch is stronger than a shot on bulletproof. > Yes, no one can argue with that.
Pooka *can* save the shot for another game-day. > That sentence which I criminally snipped from the middle of a post. Definitely NOT a proposition, yes.
Then you tell Pooka that if he "ABSOLUTELY must use it* toDay then here is what you should do. > I'm not a native English speaker, but usually when someone adds that part "if you absolutely have to it" sometimes it means that the other option (in our case, saving a shot) is much more preferable.
Then you provide your instructions for least favorable action (not saving a shot). I see what I see, call me crazy or Mafia, or even *lazy Mafia* (all of the sudden a severe Town Cadaver becomes a lazy Mafia). But you can't change your own words.

And I specifically mentioned that it was worrysome and it was, your reaction is a bit strong.

I have no objections with all that, we even discussed it afterwards and you stated that you are not in favor of saving a shot. All I meant is how it drew my anttention back then.
All I am doing now is exploring other possibilities, in my case a list of Laser's. And you're calling me a liar and lazy.

OK.

Yes, like I said above we discussed this matter later indeed. And I replied that I'm marking your words. I don't see your point exactly but I have no objection to what has happened already since it's a well known fact.

I wasn't going to actually, but if you insist I can. The problem is that I stated facts from our past and your reaction, IF you're Town, will harm in future.

I did not misquoted you. I proved my statements. If you mean that by "@POOKIE, you CAN save your shot for another game-day." you meant something else fine by me, but it wasn't. I said it I was worried about that before but I would never expect such reaction to the topic we already discussed and closed. If you get my meaning.

You can't STILL WAIT for your *doc quote* because you discussed the doc role, Lith discussed the doc role. That's what I said, that's what I quoted. I don't understand what do you mean by that.
Explanation for Doc was made to Pooka when he thought that he could been blocked by a doctor and I reasoned that's it highly unlikely because: Pooka wouldn't be saved anyway, because blocking a role is bad, because Doctor would probably aim you and Lith since you discussed doctor role on D1 hoping that you're Mafia. If you need more explanation please tell me and quote the exact part so we could be on a same page.

Your explanation about role discussion stance is good and I'm not the one who thinks it's not truthful. It's an open setup and discussing the roles is okay, and the Doctor could aim you for only that, discussing his role. Nothing more, nothing less. Not throwing shades but discussing the possibilities. I don't see why it's bad all of a sudden. Your interpretation is understandable, you think I want to accuse you as Mafia. Unfortunately it's not me who is accusing you, it's you.

Thank you: Town read me before, and now I'm *lazy mafia*.

7 - Mike the Fish (Microfish_1) - Lifthrasil, SirPrimalform, LASER97, Lonzi, Pookina, ZFR, supplementscene
Surprisingly enough, all my Bad reads, save for GR, are on that wagon. Took a lot of urging for scene to hop and vote Micro. Hmm, and it appears that scene and Laser are on that same wagon together. Along with Lift.

So Tomorrow, we lynch Laser, obviously. I'm decided to offing Lift, and will finalize this decision after I eat me food. Consider this, Twilight.

This wasn't meant as an attack on Lift, it was more a general thought. Day1 is always a crap shoot, Players grab at straws and try to go with the ones that seem to stick. Players who don't have at least one scum lean by now either are struggling scum or need to look harder. It doesn't have a have be a strong read , but everyone should have something.

Can you show why you thought Laser voted was without conviction?

:O

Before I forget again.

No. Just no. Just because Cadaver and Lift discussed Doctor, doesn't mean another Doctor will protect them. You can't claim to know who is most likely to get doctor stuff. It is much more likely that the Doctor will go for someone they suspect to be the Cop, and yet? I won't claim that it's more likely for Mr. X and Ms. Y to be protected than Mr. Z.

Why? Oh simple. Only the doctor makes the decision of who to protect, and only s/he base the previous decision on previous knowledge. Which most likely only they know.

You can keep twisting my words about Pookie and his options. You are not going to get anything out of it. The intent was clear. Before Joe's explanation, actually the scummy stance was the "fire, no matter the consequences". Your stance.


Today, you said that Lift and I (althoug you were not sure if it was Lift and I, but nevertheless, you dropped the names) were discussing roles, that we discussed the Doc role and that, for that reason, the Doc should focus precisely on us two. (even if you had said that you were unsure about the names). Seriously? I think that has been a serious mistep for you in many ways. You are having the chance to explain or clarify, yet instead you reply with vague threats. It does not make it look any better.


Who is overreacting over "lazy mafia"...?

Just because Carradice and Lith discussed Doctor on D1 doesn't mean the Doctor will protect them, yes. I can't claim to know anything, but I know that Doctor on D1 is clueless and mostly afraid to harm his Town allies, if he read you as shooter you might as well avoid you like fire. Check again my quote to you. And if the Doctor will go for a cop and hits the cop he'll help the Mafia by blocking the cop role!. Doctor will not go for a cop, no.

Again no, Strongarm is alive, Doctor's protection is useless.

So has Lift claimed yet? Or declined to?

His own words. Can you show any rationale from him?