Posted May 19, 2020
low rated
Cadaver747: So? The other person could ask about role all day long, it's a common practice to claim such thing on L-2 / L-1. Yeah, it's my 2nd GOG Mafia game but I get that's exactly like that, a common practice not reveal roles until the last moment.
The problem(imo) with that strategy(just saying one is town, sans other info, instead of lying to cover a PR & claiming vanilla) is that the town with a PR could get lynched while away/offline or they could post their PR later on and not be believed...leading to them getting lynched anyways. And afaik you're right on the method you said being the "accepted" way people do it(at least it is here, afaik).....I still don't think it's the best way to hide a PR when being asked to claim, though.
Cadaver747: If he is a Town and have a role what's the benefit of early lying about being vanilla, why it's any better that to claim Town???
Because if other town believed it and dropped wanting to lynch that town player then that player's PR would be safe, scum likely wouldn't know about it, and the town PR player would still be alive. (Dunno if the above makes any sense, as sometimes I fail to find the right words to express my intent and ideas.....also to me my idea still seems to make logical sense: i.e. to lie sometimes like that in order to give town advantages)
Cadaver747: I played a few times on iirc channel, it was a long time ago. Still don't get it. What are the odds? Problem is he was good then, he is bad now.
Eh, different sites play games differently sometimes...maybe he's more used to other ways of playing and better suited for them? Or maybe he has off games sometimes? Who knows. Cadaver747: As I said he is not making much sense, and the worst part is that he is changing his views, almost like Laser. Not at all fishy, right? What good in that special play style? Give me a link in Admin thread for SH if you can, I'll check this out. If you can of course.
Eh, to me his play style seems NAI atm. (Will post the SH link there in a bit)
Cadaver747: Yes, hah-hah...
(very creepy and frighting emoji > the smile full of hollow emptiness, Cadaver Slim's eyes looking right through the GR, into the depths of his soul, searching like two starving animals for their pray)... you could say that.
Like this kinda emoji? ---> o.0 (very creepy and frighting emoji > the smile full of hollow emptiness, Cadaver Slim's eyes looking right through the GR, into the depths of his soul, searching like two starving animals for their pray)... you could say that.
Cadaver747: Exactly how 2 of them helped the Town? They both voted Micro, the unwise Town, Laser *killed Scene* for fun, so if he is not Mafia, they know for certain who IS NOT a day wig shot, he claimed role out of Scene, so if Scene is not Mafia, they know whom to shot. I'll rephrase for you, because of them: 2 Town died (1 is on Mafia's hands), 2 people claimed roles, 1 people showed he is not a day shooter; and that's not all: they brought so much confusion and they are ready to vote anyone but themselves only to save their lives, they have not provided any good analysis yet they are continuously mentioning about some *phantom* scum hunting. Do you REALLY want Town to have them on board? Do you really think that both of them could be Town?
I want ANY town on board and kept alive if they can help us vote for and lynch scum...regardless of many possible "bad aspects" they might have(barring some exceptions) they might bring to the table/game. Also dunno if both are town, but let's say we lynch one....should we lynch the other the next game day or what? At some point town need to scum hunt and not just eliminate "bad players" or distractions, and that goes for most games of mafia in general imo.
Cadaver747: Sure is, I can do that.
*Cadaver Slim take another look on GR - there is only death in his eyes, GR shivers uncomfortably*.
Here take this, friend! ;)
*you check your palm and see +1 Mafia point*
Don't I merit at least a few more by now? O.0 *Cadaver Slim take another look on GR - there is only death in his eyes, GR shivers uncomfortably*.
Here take this, friend! ;)
*you check your palm and see +1 Mafia point*
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(Aside: I also like the way you're adding flavor between us in our back and forth here....very nice to read)
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Lifthrasil: If he lied about his role, he should die. Lynch all Liars. ... A much better guideline that the mere lynching of lurkers.
If he is Town, he is a very bad player. Pointing out a possible PR is bad for Town. Claiming Vanilla early is bad for Town. And if he isn't even Vanilla, lying is definitely bad for Town.
So either Laser is a very bad player or he is Scum. I prefer to believe the latter.
I get you have your own style, but if I may speak openly I think your LAL/lynch all bad players thing can also hinder town. If he is Town, he is a very bad player. Pointing out a possible PR is bad for Town. Claiming Vanilla early is bad for Town. And if he isn't even Vanilla, lying is definitely bad for Town.
So either Laser is a very bad player or he is Scum. I prefer to believe the latter.
Imo town need to do things town don't normally do(as long as it's within the rules or too "bastardy" maybe) to win, especially for any town who claim to be playing to win(I mean in general, not just this game).
I agree 100% that pointing out possible PRs and some of his other actions are suspect(and a bit unwise) though, and if no one better comes up I likely will vote him later on.
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(Done for now....going out in about a half hour to do IRL stuff, and will be back an hour and a half or more after that)