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@Carradice - Forgot to ask, what is a simulation model?
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SirPrimalform: I have reason to believe this may be a jest or jape.
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ZFR: You think Joe asked zazak for permission and the latter is just joking? Or did Joe added zazak, despite him not signing up, as a jest?
I may also have accused Joe of being a bad Joe (privately).
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ZFR: *sniff*

This sentence smells.
To clarify: I don't feel like playing the game for some reason. And to clarify further, this reason has nothing to do with my faction and more to do with my inability to stay up to date with the game. I feel like everytime I check on the game, loads of stuff have already happened which overwhelms me.

Heck, I even had the thought of being subbed out.
#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:213#Q&_^Q&Q#
Day 1 is always a snooze fest. Just vote Lame Mike so the carnage may finally begin.
NOOOOO Don't vote me. (I totally do not have the mafia role of "town arsonist", PGO, or a "T-Rex". But do you want to gamble? :P)

This is a gambling joint--er, a restaurant. And ZFR is a diceman.
And the atmosphere is just right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_J8Fa5YdjM
Beg harder, scum!
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supplementscene: I appreciate this analytical effort and because of it I won't be voting for yourself today
Thank you, there wasn't anything analytical about it, I just placed posts with votes and first entries. I don't think I can appreciate your gesture though: sounds like you're making me a favor or a threat even.

Joe's voting results were worth noting how exactly? (have you avoided that question?)

Only 2 players (Laser & Lonzi) out of 6 in your list (or Joe's voting results from Post#49 if you prefer) haven't voted by the time of your post, all past votes (Laser's included) were cast on the 1st day and you said:
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supplementscene: You expect me to update my list of players who haven't voted 3 days on when everyone has voted?
I mean I got votes on myself for far less (games #65-66), I don't get how some players "liked" your posts.
I can't exclude me being paranoid for no reason of course.

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supplementscene: I tend to think lurky silence should be punished regardless of role. As it makes it too easy for Mafia to hide in the shadows and if these players are town they don't help town solve the game.
Another threat from one of your previous posts. The lurkiest ones were Carradice, you, Laser and Lonzi. The only player who haven't voted "3 days on when everyone has voted" (your own words) is Lonzi

And yet you're willing to vote Lith (because he was the 3rd voter on Pooka), Micro (the LAMIST) and ZFR (because he sees nearly all others as Town but not SPF - which can't be true - however, I must admit, that part about "buddying the townees, picking an unpopular wagon and not scum hunting" is interesting to think about).

I don't think you're scum but I don't understand your logic at times. If it's because of IRL and you just can't physically read and remember all the things happened, then I guess it's just my paranoia (that would explain your mistakes and some other oddities). If not, then you're a strange man:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqyMPETa588

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supplementscene: I don't know if I've played with you before, so I'm curious how many mafia games you've played
You don't? We've played together in Court of the Sultan game hosted by Zazak (now Laser).

Either you don't have much time to read all the posts or it's something else, like I said...
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Cadaver747: ...it's my third game.
1. The Shining GOG Mafia #65 (Town, Self-Watcher)
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/the_shining_gog_mafia_65_return_to_the_stanley_hotel/page1

2. Court of the Sultan #1 - Janissary Revolt (Protester, Rebel)
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/court_of_the_sultan_1_janissary_revolt/page1

3. Current game so far (Cadaver Slim at your service).
As always, make sure to check for replies, everyone:

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supplementscene: My scumhunting tactics (not that I'm good at it) are:
Well you were very good at ferreting us out in(iirc) the SH game....only thing that held you back was your adherence to meta back then....otherwise you likely would've helped nail us to the wall in that game.

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Carradice: I wholeheartedly agree with @Lift that discussing roles in closed or semiclosed setups is detrimental for Town. However, in an open setup, I reckon it is OK to discuss possible uses of confirmed roles? For example, when to use the vig shot or the interesting dynamics of the doc-delayed roleblocker (which renders the proctection of the cop and the vig non-trivial), or what advantage might the mob get from their roles. This might be an interesting discussion, with the added benefit that it might help the players affected in getting a bearing, if not very experienced with the game. Also it might help trimming the model. But if you think it might be damaging for Town, I will understand.
If you want to make charts, gather info, etc to help us win...then by all means do it.

Just try to make it simple enough for us laypeople as well. :)

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Microfish_1: Off-topic: I'm disappointed that no one picked up on (or alluded to) my classical allusions in one of my previous posts. Makes me sad. Wot kind of fine-art edymahkayshuns did y'all receive?
I might've gotten some of em, but eh....i've had some IRL issues to deal with atm that have me on edge, so i've been off my game a bit.

No worries, though, i'm still in for the long haul. :)

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Microfish_1: @JOE I need a cookie in compensation please.
*Hands Mike the Fish a delicious oatmeal raisin cookie*

(Above bold bit is NOT a vote, nor is this line)

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Done for now....I am torn btw....have a few seeming town leans(Cadaver and Micro, and maybe others), but no big enough suspicions to vote for anyone....and I don't want us to end with no lunch. What to do. :\
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Pookina: I feel like I'm not cut for the game. But let's see.
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ZFR: *sniff*

This sentence smells.

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supplementscene: Why SPF. I'm guessing you've played countless games with him. You should be able to do better than 'can't put my finger on anything particular'. Why Gamerager? Why Pooka?
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ZFR: Why should playing many games help me? Quite the opposite; I find it easier to be concrete with newish players. After playing many times with someone their behaviour from past games blends together and - on D1 - while I subconsciously rely on my instinct to read them, I find it harder to fish out particular bits.

Sorry, can't help you more.

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SirPrimalform: I have reason to believe this may be a jest or jape.
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ZFR: You think Joe asked zazak for permission and the latter is just joking? Or did Joe added zazak, despite him not signing up, as a jest?
If you've played that many games with SPF surely you should have tells that are better than 'may the force be with me' or your 'spidey senses'?

You just seem to have no explanation for your picks of SPF, Rager or Pooka. As such it comes across as you not trying to solve the game

Unvote Lift VOTE ZFR
@Joe - would you please post the vote count.


My vote on GameRager was an RVS so:

Unvote Games O'Rager (GameRager)

Posting my reads next before I head for bed.
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Cadaver747: Another threat from one of your previous posts. The lurkiest ones were Carradice, you, Laser and Lonzi. The only player who haven't voted "3 days on when everyone has voted" (your own words) is Lonzi

And yet you're willing to vote Lith (because he was the 3rd voter on Pooka), Micro (the LAMIST) and ZFR (because he sees nearly all others as Town but not SPF - which can't be true - however, I must admit, that part about "buddying the townees, picking an unpopular wagon and not scum hunting" is interesting to think about).

I don't think you're scum but I don't understand your logic at times. If it's because of IRL and you just can't physically read and remember all the things happened, then I guess it's just my paranoia (that would explain your mistakes and some other oddities). If not, then you're a strange man:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqyMPETa588
I tend to have a bias towards analysing posters posts but you're correct Lonzi/Laser and to a lesser extent Carradice should be lynch targets because of their lack of input. Even if they are Town, the fact they aren't contributing, makes them weak town players

The risk of this is if one of them has a power and is trying to remain stealthy. Players with powers are sometimes more withdrawn.
Five people have called out Microfish for being LAMIST, yet aren't voting for him.

- Cadaver
- Crisisgate
- Pooka
- SupplementScene
- ZFR

Hoist the red flag!
There is no small amount of carrying on for some time, and I am paying particular attention to Mike the Fish, who is acting most displeasured. And I am paying him this attention because it seems he finds his left paw tremendously itchy about this time, and I happen to know, as many of the guys and dolls on Broadway who are familiar with Mike the Fish to tip the hat to know, that when his left paw gets itchy like this it is because he is wishing it is planted in somebody's gut, or else boxing an ear in some way, so I am doing my best to stay clear as I am most anxious for my gut to not be close to the Fish's paws right now.

3 - Mike the Fish (Microfish_1) - Lifthrasil, SirPrimalform, LASER97,

1 - Games O'Rager (GameRager) - Cadaver747,
1 - Large the Lift (Lifthrasil) - Microfish_1,
1 - Shirley Primalley (SirPrimalform) - ZFR,
1 - Miss Pookie Mustard (Pookina) - Carradice,
1 - Jocelyn Carradice, the Dancer (Carradice) - Pookina,
1 - Diceman Zeffer (ZFR) - supplementscene,

0 - Lazy Walkins (LASER97) -
0 - Scenes Supplamicz (supplementscene) -
0 - Cadaver Slim (Cadaver747) -
0 - Cristine the Gale (Cristigale) -
0 - Shapie Lonzi (Lonzi) -
0 - No-Lunch -

Not Voting - Lonzi, GameRager, Cristigale,

Microfish_1 currently holds the most votes at 4 votes away from majority.

The Elimination Phase will end in a day or two, mostly likely sunday evening
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LASER97: Five people have called out Microfish for being LAMIST, yet aren't voting for him.
Please quote my post.
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Cadaver747: Micro (the LAMIST)