Yeah, you know:
Tinker, slacker
Candlestick... macker.

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I'm not tremendously impressed with Micro's excuse for the pointless exercise of claiming town completely unprompted.

Vote Mike the Fish

Mike's posts do seem very LAMIST to me. Since no better cases have been put forward, he's as good of a candidate as any to brutally lynch and humiliate on day one.

Vote Mike the Fish

I am here and catching up. If you have a question, tag me. I expect to be around for the next several hours multitasking.

I'd say that were true for anyone else, but Lift has expressed before his dislike for this kind of joke coming nth game in a row, so I can see him placing that vote on Pooka as scum and Town. NAI. Besides, from what I've seen the last couple of games everyone and their mothers have been talking about "3rd/4th votes are suspicious" so that scum have been avoiding them like *cough* plague so I'd rather pay attention to those refusing to vote third which brings us to...

...cristi who found Cadaver suspicious but refused to place the 3rd vote. However she did say it's because she doesn't want to rub salt in wound and was afraid it would show toxicity, so I guess NAI in her case too.

I disliked Cadavers response to myself + SPF for various reasons: mixing real-upset with roleplay-upset makes it difficult to respond; and getting that upset over an accusation in a game that's 90% made of accusations was too much. I mean I'd get it if we were particularly offensive or something but nothing like that ever happened. Still, after the response I'm more inclined to Town-read him. Reminded me of early Town!blotunga a bit.

Town reading Micro, lamist "claim" notwithstanding. But maybe it's because I've only seen his Town side.

lazak didn't post much, but it seems he actually was shanghaied into this game by Joe. Bad Joe.

scene made good posts. No strong reads either way, but I actually like him this game. Don't want to lynch yet.

Speaking of not wanting to lynch, I'd rather not go for lonzi on her first game or cristi who came back after a break. Unless something happens.

Gun to my head, the scummiest so far is SPF. Can't put my finger on anything in particular, but he feels different. I'm also wondering if his vote on Micro is to avoid that 3rd seat.

Town-reading Carradice. He feels like his first Town game, as opposed to the second one. But he's intelligent enough to appear that way as scum.

Willing to vote GR. And Pooka. Yes, Pooka has a scummy feeling too. Maybe leftover from last game, maybe not.

No strong reads on Lift but I'm not against voting him.

Did I miss anyone?

Vote SPF

Yes, thanks! I was curious is you were often an early mislynch as town. Of course there is a lot behind the scenes that get lost in just seeing the results. But it helps with context.

What do you think of the votes on your wagon?

[channeling ZFR] Questions, questions, questions. [/ch. ZFR]

[ch. Yogs.] Are you asking me this because you're scum!?!?! O.O [/ch. Yogs]

Also, thanks for the tips on how to play as scum, in case i ever get that team-pick. And the earlier tip that mods can't mess with the rng without messing things up.

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@JOE: how long until EOD?

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1 Scene has played several games, but as far as I know he has always been more interested in SH games, and defintiely doesn't join every mafia game. To the best of my knowledge, I haven't played with Lonzi or Cristigale before, but one of them said something about playing here a few years ago, and Cristigale said she has played on another website.

2. I do not yet know. During ZFR's game (for which you generously made the charts), SPF was the quiet scum and Yogs the vocal one, iirc? Or was it a different game and SFR/GR? I forget right now. :(

4. What odds does your sim each team give based off of the OP?

5. I have no clue.

Seriously? you had to go a make a post that scrambled my reading of you. And Lift. Though this could be scum protecting scum.

I no longer know about The Pooks. I've been trying to get over my in-mafia constant suspicion of him, but it is hard. Asa a result, i no longer ever trust my reads on him. I think that if I town-read him, i'd be prone to deliberately say he was scum, snd if I scum-read him, I'd deliberately say he was town.

This is me--what would a game of mafia be like without a seemingly-deliberate-but-accidental scum-tell from yours truly on day one or two? :P

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Off-topic: I'm disappointed that no one picked up on (or alluded to) my classical allusions in one of my previous posts. Makes me sad. Wot kind of fine-art edymahkayshuns did y'all receive?
@JOE I need a cookie in compensation please.

Well, I seem to have made a habit of making early-game posts that everyone reads as a scum tell, and then have to fight my way back to being town-read (the game where I was IC comes to mind). This seems no different.

The problem is, I never see how such posts are supposedly scum-tells. In this case, I get Lift's suspicions. In his shoes I might be equally suspicious.

Lasar has been understandably absent much of the game and
Yuck! I just had a spider land on my neck!
Anyway--SPF is a surprise, tbh. I don't know what to think. Lift is I think either being reasonable or is reactionary to my calling him scum and wanting to vote for him.

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Leading Wagon analysis as of the last vote count:
Pooka--I'm calling town for now
GR--no clue, would be willing to vote
Lift--I am quite suspicious of him, but nothing horribly stands out other than this feeling (in my foot--er, scratch that, that's where ZFR's Feat stepped on mine.) ZFR's most recent post made Lifthrasil seem better.
Micro--town. As always. Yet, as per normal, has made a post to get everyone talking, has been scum read for it and doesn't care much for all the extra attention. Not gonna vote him.

so, to provide an alternative to my wagon, i will be the dreaded third-seventh and
vote Lifthrasil

I'd like if everyone state their preferred lynches. Mine are:

1. Liftrasil - 3rd on a wagon off what was imo an overreaction from everyone doesn't sit right. Although apparently there's some history in recent games, but nah it still doesn't sit right with me. I'd lean to this being Scum Lift over Town Lift. On the other hand his vote on Microfish makes more sense from a town Lift.

2. Microfish - the 'I'm only ever town, I can't be anything but town' monologue was a bit too much. It seemed very contrived. Perhaps someone playing a Mafia role for the first time. I know I made mistakes as Mafia in the 2 times I played it, it's harder to play it.

3. ZFR - sees nearly everyone as town except for SPF who's done his usual lurky, random comment game. It makes me think he's buddying the townees, picking an unpopular wagon and not scum hunting. I mean how exactly does SPF sound off ZFR?

Why SPF. I'm guessing you've played countless games with him. You should be able to do better than 'can't put my finger on anything particular'. Why Gamerager? Why Pooka?

I appreciate this analytical effort and because of it I won't be voting for yourself today

I don't know if I've played with you before, so I'm curious how many mafia games you've played

Scene - you mention here that this was a gaffe, but later I hear you telling Cadaver that you intentionally chose to include those who voted after Joe's post in post #193

Which is it?

It wasn't intentional, no, I meant to make it upto date but my page was loaded up until Joes latest vote count. However I think highlating late voters does have some merit.

I'm townreading Cadaver right now but the some of the rest maybe suspect.

I think I believe this. I am leaving my tab open but will be out for about an hour.

Lolwut. I voted for him because it felt like he brushed off the questions about his claim. I saw that he'd responded but wasn't being put under much pressure. Surely if I was overly concerned about avoiding the third seat I could just... not vote? Weird.

I have reason to believe this may be a jest or jape.

See above. Feels like you didn't give a good reason for being knowingly (and literally) LAMIST and kind of brushed it off. Call my vote a pressure vote.

*sniff*

This sentence smells.


Why should playing many games help me? Quite the opposite; I find it easier to be concrete with newish players. After playing many times with someone their behaviour from past games blends together and - on D1 - while I subconsciously rely on my instinct to read them, I find it harder to fish out particular bits.

Sorry, can't help you more.

You think Joe asked zazak for permission and the latter is just joking? Or did Joe added zazak, despite him not signing up, as a jest?

Hi! Nice to meet you! I have played several games on GOG. My first was flubb's milk game...let me check...#25 Terror at Tres Leches. That was a wild game. It's been a while since I played.

Those three tiny lights, I looked at your last post. I would be grasping at straws to guess who they refer to.