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Posted May 29, 2020
BTW To ALL: I am replying to stuff in both QTs, if anyone cares to read that stuff I add at the end.

Laters. :)
Posted May 29, 2020
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LASER97: What? Their strategy was awful.
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joppo: No, it was not. They were pretty good the first two days, but didn't hit the cop for a very narrow margin of decision. Then Lonzi had to step out at a critical moment for us. Had she been around I think she would end up convincing GR to go for Cristi, or possibly sway Carradice to overrule GR's choice of Cadaver. With only one confirmed townie alive AND nobody to vouch for a player everyone was seeing as the scummiest of all, namely Laser97, getting a mislynch would be a piece of cake.
@Joppo: Thanks for the nice words, mate.

@To all: Yes. Actually I had been asking for a nightly drive-by on Cristigale since the beginning... (nothing personal, just business). Alas, on N-1 my scummates agreed on ZFR, much to my chagrin, while on the first night of N-2 they agreed on Cadaver. They were connecting in a time window different from mine, with little overlap. On the second day of N-2 Lonzi had changed her judgment while I was offline, and seemingly, being both in a rush (me too, when last connecting prior to that), there was some confusion. When I could reconnect, there were just two left in the team. She was a big loss, as the most experienced of the team. It was not necessary to stir things more, shaken by the loss as we were, and I left just a suggestion that Cadaver was not the cop (the twain made up our short list; SPF we reckoned to be the Doc). Alas, GR had no chance to see it before the wheels were set in motion again.
Posted May 29, 2020
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Lifthrasil: Yes. Which was the only thing that offset the abysmal performance by Town. Yours included.
The most abysmal players are those unable to survive.
Cristi investigating me and Scene, because of my fake claim, is what helped us win today.

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Lifthrasil: But you did succeed. You were the scummiest player by far ... some time you have to explain to us how that 'not getting lynched' superpower works. Everyone else would have been lynched upon such scummy play.
You mistakenly believe that someone being anti-town means that they have a greater chance of being mafia. Cristi and me have both played on various communities, and tried to explain to you this is rarely ever the case. You were stubborn.

Another important piece of advice. Meta is your greatest tool in this game, but it's a double edged sword. If you always play it straight as town, you are going to get your ass handed to you as mafia. That's part of why I never lose as scum
Post edited May 29, 2020 by LASER97
Posted May 29, 2020
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Carradice: Nearer my GOG to thee. Appreciated. Can you believe I managed to NOT watching this movie, like, never?
<snicker> Clever!

BTW, cheers at the bar!
Posted May 29, 2020
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ZFR: Joe, thanks for hosting. Loved the flavour.

Congrats, Town.

@GameRager, that's a very nice gesture.

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Lifthrasil: I refer to that as anti-team play. It's not a nice way to play. It spoils the fun of something that is supposed to be a team effort for purely selfish reasons. (so that you get a free pass in later games)
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ZFR: Not only that, but this kind of play has a very negative Expected Value. You'll be drawn into Town more often than Mafia, so any advantage you gain by being more difficult to read gets offset by the damage you do to your faction Town with your anti-Town play, so you lose more in the long run.

It's like going all in every hand in poker. It makes you difficult to read, and those times that you actually get AA or any good hand, you'll win easily since no one will expect it. But since statistically you'll get a bad hand much more ofte, you'll just lose money in the long run (and yes, that will make the game less fun for others too).
With the caveat that Poker is an individual game so everyone that is in the same game as said player would be happy about it. But if there was some sort of poker with teams this hypothetical player's teammates would be constantly thinking "stop draining our money pool you moron"
Post edited May 29, 2020 by joppo
Posted May 29, 2020
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ZFR: It's like going all in every hand in poker. It makes you difficult to read, and those times that you actually get AA or any good hand, you'll win easily since no one will expect it.
Obviously I don't play this way all the time, and I've only ever lost one game as town.
Posted May 29, 2020
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Carradice: ....and seemingly, being both in a rush (me too, when last connecting prior to that), there was some confusion.
That's being charitable.....I let my ego cause me to push that the original choice be honored(of cadaver)....next time I think i'll let skilled players take the lead a bit more. :)

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Carradice: Alas, GR had no chance to see it before the wheels were set in motion again.
I asked if you wanted to change it back to cristi iirc.....which you could've done if you had wanted.....oh well, best not to cry over spilt milks.
Posted May 29, 2020
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JoeSapphire: And she sighs at that point a very low and sad sigh, and I can not but ask her what makes her so sad as all that, and she tells me,
"Personally, I am thinking it is best to make a clean confession of things here, and let things fall out however they will, but if I am knowing Jocelyn Carradice, she is eagering up to pull something fast on Shirley Primalley, who she is always believing to do the worst for poor Saul."
And before I am asking what Jocelyn Carradice is likely to pull on Shirley Primalley, there is a horrible noise as Shirley Primalley says like this:
"AAIEEEEEEEEEUGH!"
And it seems that Shapie Lonzi has been quite exact where Jocelyn Carradice, the Dancer, is concerned and Shirley Primalley has a stilletto in the neck and is causing some stir over it, and meanwhile Games O'Rager is making trouble with Lazy Walkins and Miss Pookie Mustard who all three of them have pulled out the old equaliser and slugs are going through the air and crying out whangitty whang whang as they do.
Ouch!

It needs to be said more: Thanks for the great flavour, Joe! It has been the icing on the cake.

To all: gg
Posted May 29, 2020
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Lifthrasil: Yes. Which was the only thing that offset the abysmal performance by Town. Yours included.
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LASER97: The most abysmal players are those unable to survive.
Cristi investigating me and Scene, because of my fake claim, is what helped us win today.
On the other hand, Cristi had to waste her read on a town player when she could have used it on one of the scum.I think Town's chances would go much higher if she had read Carradice or GR.

You can say your plays "won the game" for Town, but what won the game for Town was the fact that Joe didn't realized that the game was unbalanced until it was too late. Town won not because of your plays, but despite your plays.
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Carradice: @To all: Yes. Actually I had been asking for a nightly drive-by on Cristigale since the beginning... (nothing personal, just business). Alas, on N-1 my scummates agreed on ZFR, much to my chagrin, while on the first night of N-2 they agreed on Cadaver. They were connecting in a time window different from mine, with little overlap. On the second day of N-2 Lonzi had changed her judgment while I was offline, and seemingly, being both in a rush (me too, when last connecting prior to that), there was some confusion. When I could reconnect, there were just two left in the team. She was a big loss, as the most experienced of the team. It was not necessary to stir things more, shaken by the loss as we were, and I left just a suggestion that Cadaver was not the cop (the twain made up our short list; SPF we reckoned to be the Doc). Alas, GR had no chance to see it before the wheels were set in motion again.
Perfect recollection. And by the time I entered the scumchat D3 had started already, as you all can see. (So you were wrong SPF. I did not confer with my teammates at all. I was really reading the thread from the start all that time. I had a busy monday and had to read more than 700 posts in one day.)
Post edited May 29, 2020 by joppo
Posted May 29, 2020
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LASER97: Obviously I don't play this way all the time, and I've only ever lost one game as town.
If we play together(on any side) next game, maybe we could pick personas like: you could be The Fugitive and I could be Tommy Lee Jones(or vice versa). :D
Post edited May 29, 2020 by GameRager
Posted May 29, 2020
Blaming your defeat on balance seems like a cop out.
Posted May 29, 2020
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LASER97: Blaming your defeat on balance seems like a cop out.
Which of us are you replying to? Cuz I said it was in good part due to my poor decision on N2.
Posted May 29, 2020
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Carradice: ....and seemingly, being both in a rush (me too, when last connecting prior to that), there was some confusion.
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GameRager: That's being charitable.....I let my ego cause me to push that the original choice be honored(of cadaver)....next time I think i'll let skilled players take the lead a bit more. :)

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Carradice: Alas, GR had no chance to see it before the wheels were set in motion again.
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GameRager: I asked if you wanted to change it back to cristi iirc.....which you could've done if you had wanted.....oh well, best not to cry over spilt milks.
Yes, I delayed to think it all over again, since there had been a lot of conviction in you two. Also, RL. When I got back to it, I hoped to be on time to one of your usual windows, but that last rendez-vous before the rise of the curtain never got to happen. Then, a few rushed notes for our new scummate was all that could be left for him. He played along superbly. He made justice to the high hopes that had been put on him.

Also, as you know, but I will say it here for the benefit of the crew, it has been a pleasure to play along with the scummates during the game-days, with no day chat. It always felt pretty organic, as if we had been training together for that :) One of the most fun sides of the game.
Posted May 29, 2020
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ZFR: Bragging right trio: lonzi, scene and GR.
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SirPrimalform: Since we're in an open setup, bonus points for guessing the specific role for each of them.
Yo! I just realized this!

2 out of 3. Allright! + 1 bonus point for lonzi's role.
Post edited May 29, 2020 by ZFR
Posted May 29, 2020
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Carradice: Yes, I delayed to think it all over again, since there had been a lot of conviction in you two. Also, RL. When I got back to it, I hoped to be on time to one of your usual windows, but that last rendez-vous before the rise of the curtain never got to happen. Then, a few rushed notes for our new scummate was all that could be left for him. He played along superbly. He made justice to the high hopes that had been put on him.
Oh well, better luck to us all next time. :)

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Carradice: Also, as you know, but I will say it here for the benefit of the crew, it has been a pleasure to play along with the scummates during the game-days, with no day chat. It always felt pretty organic, as if we had been training together for that :) One of the most fun sides of the game.
Thanks....we gave it our all and tried as we felt best. Hurrah for us.....and one more song for the road. :)

NO GUTS NO GLORY(as they say) :D
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@Cristi: I also hope you like the above link as well, as you seemed to like the others. :)
Post edited May 29, 2020 by GameRager
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