EBWOP:

I've re-read Joppo's claim, I've seen that he said Lonzi decided not to do anything.

SInce Cristi is going to clear me, who do you think the two scum are among Carradice, Gamerager, and Scene.

It does sound likely Cristi is going to clear you. It certainly explains her read on you yesterday anyway. Assuming she will for a moment:

Scene has been very swingy and over the top, but it's hard to tell if that's not just normal Scene. The undirected flailing today does seem slightly more town.

Carradice is doing a good job of being "the voice of reason", but if he's scum then he's not going to want to tip his hand because scum need to win today by getting two townies to vote for me. If he makes it clear too early on that he favours Joppo it could spook people. The "How could you, my two towniest reads?" thing does come across as a little phony.

GR is GR. Maybe a bit too chummy of late?

I think Carradice is probably scum and it's a toss up between Scene and GR. Both are often fairly inscrutable due to not really paying attention as town.

How about you? Between Carradice, Gamerager, and Scene, which two are most likely scum.

Doc or not doc, I do not need you to misrepresent my words, thank you very much. You use commas, but I have never said those words. My exact words from #1012 have been:

>>My two most town-leaning players. Why are you doing this to me?

It is true that you two have been my most town-leaning players since the beginning. Also the ones still in play that have been playing most reasonably. Which helps town. Also, note the OBVIOUS humouristic tone in the wording, made even more evident with the use of italics. So, yes, this is what you get from trying to keep the situation light, apparently. Also, for asking for a clean fight. Maybe the concept is obsolete here, with this party composition?

Also, something to remember. I do not care that much about Joppo's words, but about Lonzi's words and Lonzi's actions. If you want to go the meta route: opportunistic scum might want to try their luck, with a likely holder of a power being replaced for someone who just arrived, and with less experience. Seeing that Cristigale claimed cop, the option was obvious. Bingo. So what, it is that easy? And to anyone who does not believe you inmediately, you label them as scum. Great. You can start voting now then.

So, if you are bitter for not being given a free pass inmediately, I cannot do anything about it. What I can do is listening to arguments and thinking over them. Laying on your couch while asking others to see you as Town, just because, does not cut it.

That meeting dragged on and on...let me do a quick scan, will read in detail later.

I didn't mean to misrepresent you. I simply paraphrased from memory to get the gist. What you actually wrote and what I wrote have the same meaning to me, but apologies if you feel I misrepresented you in some way.

This seems like quite an overreaction. I don't expect anyone to believe me immediately and I certainly haven't labelled you scum on that basis. I was just asked to rank who of the remaining players I thought were scum and (working for now on the assumption that Cristi is probably going to clear Laser) I was simply applying scrutiny to your posts from today. Why so touchy?


No, I'm not at all bitter that people can't see what I can see, I don't expect them to be able to. Now it's apparently your turn to misrepresent me.
I'm not "Laying on [my] couch while asking others to see [me] as Town". What I said was that I'm not going to work my arse off arguing every angle by myself because I know that not to work. Instead, I invited townies to ask questions of me and Joppo so that we can make our cases.

Laser is asking questions. Instead of asking questions, you're just getting upset over my answer to Laser's questions. Laser is being helpful, at the moment you aren't.

Okay, lots posts I need to read in detail, but for now I have seen what I need.

I though that scum my try to counterclaim me today. That's why I was claimed ASAP and was pushing for reactions. It seems that scum chose to counter claim the Doc instead.

Let's start with my N1 results, as that this one seems pretty straight forward:

I copped scene N1. He is town. The ONLY way that this is false, is if mafia chose to use the One-Shot Redirector N1, chose me as their target, and chose to redirect me to town.

Let's discuss this first. To me scene is almost 100% town. Thoughts?

From my perspective at least, that means with 100% certainty that Carradice and Gamerager are scum.

I buy it. The likelihood of them using the one shot redirector on you on N1 seems very low unless you breadcrumbed your role or accidentally gave something away.

I did wonder if Laser's behaviour on D1 was an attempt to draw the cop, perhaps in order to try and redirect and get mafia detected as town. However since this plan would require knowing you're the cop it seems really unlikely now. Thus if Laser expects you to clear him then it seems likely he really is town.

I guess that makes the scum team GR, Carradice and Joppo - unless you have a shocking revelation coming up.

I take Scene as confirmed town.

I love how you drag out the suspence. I think you breadcrumbed this by town reading me. I'm hoping you investigated one of Laser, Carradice and Gamerager so we have 2 confirmed lynches.

You scumread SPF but voted for Lift. So I'd guess you haven't actual investigated SPF? Or you had but didn't see a wagon starting on him.

Yesterday was D2, Cristi would only have the N1 result at that point. Whatever her second result is, she only found it out at the start of D3 so you interpret her actions yesterday in terms of a result she only just got.

Bump for Cristi. This is like when Poirot gathers all the suspects together

Who else did you investigate? No use keeping it a secret for any longer.