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Posted May 27, 2020
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SirPrimalform: [...]

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supplementscene: The doctor can protect Christi tonight, which means we get another read tonight.
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SirPrimalform: Oh, I guess you still didn't read the set up then.

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supplementscene: This isn't at all helpful. The point is if Chrissie investigated 2 players to be Regular Town if you claimed Regular Town she'd know you're lying

Likewise if she investigated Joppo as Doctor and you claim Doctor she will know you're Scum.

Therefore not stating your full role is as bad as not claiming
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SirPrimalform: There is no role cop in the game, just the normal kind of cop.

Again: Read. The. Setup.

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Anyway, as I said before I've kind of come round to the idea of the massclaim.

*drumrollllllllllll*

I am the Doctor (now with delayed roleblocking action and posable arms).

As soon as I read the setup it was clear to me that my protection is essentially useless as long as the strongarm is still in play, and my blocking is almost useless until then.

So on N1 I protected Laser, just in case he was actually mafia (although the redirector is the only thing I can realistically block). This means Laser was blocked last night. If he's telling the truth then no harm done.
I won't reveal my N2 'protection' target yet, so they won't go into the night knowing they'll be blocked.

I'm still worried that the mafia would enthusiastically embrace a mass claim if they had managed to redirect the cop result, but as it requires knowing who the cop is it's a pretty low risk.
^ This. It was the doc's call to come forward or not. Not counterclaiming SPF.



The best that can be said about Scenes on D-3 is that he has not even read the setup properly. The worst, that he is acting maliciously. He can enbolden his posts all he wants, and he can use all the caps he wants. I am ignoring any call to action from such a source, thank you very much.

@SPF: Laser and Scenes are the next lynches if there is not a mass claim. They coincide in their need for said claim. They do not need to be scum for that, though.
Posted May 27, 2020
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Carradice: @SPF: Laser and Scenes are the next lynches if there is not a mass claim. They coincide in their need for said claim. They do not need to be scum for that, though.
Wait, are you saying you'd lynch the, even if they're town? Or did I misread that?
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Also while we wait some music
*Games O' Rager uses his magic flipping nickel to open a magik-y portal showing a thing he calls a music video*

(Song is by KISS, and is from the scooby movie...hope y'all like it)
Posted May 27, 2020
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joppo: WHAT???

Okay everyone, gather your ballots right now. It's a standoff. One of us is a liar.

Vote SirPrimalform
Haha, I had my suspicions when the night dragged on due to Lonzi dropping out. I thought it was a bit meta, but it seemed like the delay was to allow the replacement a chance to take part in night discussions.

Bravo for having the balls to try this though.

Vote Joppo
Posted May 27, 2020
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SirPrimalform: Haha, I had my suspicions when the night dragged on due to Lonzi dropping out. I thought it was a bit meta, but it seemed like the delay was to allow the replacement a chance to take part in night discussions.
Could be that or the OP giving them time to acclimate to the game and read all old posts before we started D3.....both could easily be the case.
Posted May 27, 2020
Hi! I only have a few minutes right now before a meeting. On a quick scan, it looks like everyone has piped in at this point. I have about two hours after the meeting to be here. Another meeting and then I am free for the rest of the day. See you in a about an hour.
Posted May 27, 2020
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GameRager: Could be that or the OP giving them time to acclimate to the game and read all old posts before we started D3.....both could easily be the case.
Of course, and I didn't mention it for that very reason. However now Joppo has revealed himself to be mafia I'm fairly certain I was right. My guess is that Joppo had already planned to counterclaim a PR and was waiting for me to go so he could come second.

If the mafia all claimed regular, we'd have a 3 in 5 chance of hitting mafia. With the mafia engineering a standoff we they've reduced those odds to 1 in 2 which works in their favour. Hopefully Cristi investigated one of us.
Posted May 27, 2020
Ninjaed.


Not that something like this was impossible. Still, the day changed completely.


Well, not going to counterclaim [i]the other doctor, either.[/i

My two most town-leaning players. Why are you doing this to me?



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Carradice: @SPF: Laser and Scenes are the next lynches if there is not a mass claim. They coincide in their need for said claim. They do not need to be scum for that, though.
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GameRager: Wait, are you saying you'd lynch the, even if they're town? Or did I misread that?
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Also while we wait some music
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GameRager: *Games O' Rager uses his magic flipping nickel to open a magik-y portal showing a thing he calls a music video*

(Song is by KISS, and is from the scooby movie...hope y'all like it)
No, no. That meant that it was their asses on the pan and the mass claim their only source of hope for both them, either as town or scum, and they do not need to be on the same team.
Posted May 27, 2020
Saw the claim/counter claim, once again, DO NOT VOTE (other than the claim/counter claim)

Back in an hour.
Posted May 27, 2020
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joppo: WHAT???

Okay everyone, gather your ballots right now. It's a standoff. One of us is a liar.

Vote SirPrimalform
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SirPrimalform: Haha, I had my suspicions when the night dragged on due to Lonzi dropping out. I thought it was a bit meta, but it seemed like the delay was to allow the replacement a chance to take part in night discussions.

Bravo for having the balls to try this though.

Vote Joppo
No need to take part in any discussions, at least for me. You guys have been playing this game from May 12. You all had 15 days to read almost a thousand posts.
I had to read those same posts yesterday (plus a bit on monday) to be able to put proper scumreads out there (as you can see above).
I was asked to sub in on monday morning and asked for reading time until tuesday's late afternoon or early evening. But make of that what you will.
Posted May 27, 2020
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Carradice: No, no. That meant that it was their asses on the pan and the mass claim their only source of hope for both them, either as town or scum, and they do not need to be on the same team.
This isn't Court of the Sultan, regular town shouldn't be too worried about being lynched under normal circumstances. The reason to be worried (and this applies to the entire town) is that we're at MYLO.

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cristigale: Saw the claim/counter claim, once again, DO NOT VOTE (other than the claim/counter claim)

Back in an hour.
Don't worry, I'm safe for now. The "two votes and you're in danger" thing only applies if those votes are from town players. Joppo's vote isn't one of those so we're good for now.

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joppo: No need to take part in any discussions, at least for me. You guys have been playing this game from May 12. You all had 15 days to read almost a thousand posts.
I had to read those same posts yesterday (plus a bit on monday) to be able to put proper scumreads out there (as you can see above).
I was asked to sub in on monday morning and asked for reading time until tuesday's late afternoon or early evening. But make of that what you will.
Normally that reading time would simply be integrated into the day.
As I said, I didn't bring it up before because it wouldn't have been fair and it was too meta. I've only brought it up now because you've revealed yourself. :P
Posted May 27, 2020
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joppo: WHAT???

Okay everyone, gather your ballots right now. It's a standoff. One of us is a liar.

Vote SirPrimalform
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SirPrimalform: Haha, I had my suspicions when the night dragged on due to Lonzi dropping out. I thought it was a bit meta, but it seemed like the delay was to allow the replacement a chance to take part in night discussions.

Bravo for having the balls to try this though.

Vote Joppo
Sorry, SPF. Have been rooting for you the whole game, but need to think at this from the two sides.

Yes, that is total meta. Joe did his best to find a replacement, according to his posts. The situation has gone too sh1tty already with scum having four days, without having to take advantage from it further. If you want to go the meta route, it might have been that they requested more time or that they were discussing with the mod the flaws of the setup, or something that we do not imagine. In any case, Lonzi has been claiming to have a lack of time and a recurring RL situation (that needs not to be discussed here). Lazak was even expecting her to ask for a sub any moment. I hoped not, because I liked her posts. It has been hard already to lose Micro, ZFR, Lift.

If you want my take, she must have done her best to get to the end of D-2, then asked for the sub. If you remember, she did not even post by the end of D-2. It has been Joe's task to find a replacement, and seemingly it has not been easy to find one that could join any sooner. In that I do believe Joe and I believe Joppo.

So, please, no punches below the belt. Both of you are good players and do not need that. If anything, you are admittedly the more experienced of the two. You two only need arguments here. Let the logic fly, maybe with the help of Cristine's checks. Make this fun, make this interesting. Lots of hope in both of you making this a D-3 worth being playing in.
Posted May 27, 2020
Replied to Cristi/SPF/Carradice/Cristi
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cristigale: Hi! I only have a few minutes right now before a meeting. On a quick scan, it looks like everyone has piped in at this point. I have about two hours after the meeting to be here. Another meeting and then I am free for the rest of the day. See you in a about an hour.
Good to hear.

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SirPrimalform: Of course, and I didn't mention it for that very reason. However now Joppo has revealed himself to be mafia I'm fairly certain I was right. My guess is that Joppo had already planned to counterclaim a PR and was waiting for me to go so he could come second.
Not to be a wet blanket, but I don't trust either claim fully unless cristi investigated one of you.

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SirPrimalform: If the mafia all claimed regular, we'd have a 3 in 5 chance of hitting mafia. With the mafia engineering a standoff we they've reduced those odds to 1 in 2 which works in their favour. Hopefully Cristi investigated one of us.
I hope so....and if not we should imo lynch one of you as our next lynch(for obvious reasons, as one of you two is obviously lying).
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Carradice: No, no. That meant that it was their asses on the pan and the mass claim their only source of hope for both them, either as town or scum, and they do not need to be on the same team.
Thanks for clearing that up a bit...i''m still confused a bit(I am a lot in such games), but it's more understandable now.
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cristigale: Saw the claim/counter claim, once again, DO NOT VOTE (other than the claim/counter claim)

Back in an hour.
Don't you mean PLEASE do not vote. ;) :)

Also see ya then.
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To all: I myself have to go out shopping for a few hours(2 or so)...will be back soon enough....if anyone has any questions/comments/etc I will take care of it all(and react to whatever Cristi posts while i'm gone) once I get back.
Posted May 27, 2020
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cristigale: Hi! I only have a few minutes right now before a meeting. On a quick scan, it looks like everyone has piped in at this point. I have about two hours after the meeting to be here. Another meeting and then I am free for the rest of the day. See you in a about an hour.
You're such a tease
Posted May 27, 2020
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Carradice: Sorry, SPF. Have been rooting for you the whole game, but need to think at this from the two sides.

Yes, that is total meta. Joe did his best to find a replacement, according to his posts. The situation has gone too sh1tty already with scum having four days, without having to take advantage from it further. If you want to go the meta route, it might have been that they requested more time or that they were discussing with the mod the flaws of the setup, or something that we do not imagine. In any case, Lonzi has been claiming to have a lack of time and a recurring RL situation (that needs not to be discussed here). Lazak was even expecting her to ask for a sub any moment. I hoped not, because I liked her posts. It has been hard already to lose Micro, ZFR, Lift.

If you want my take, she must have done her best to get to the end of D-2, then asked for the sub. If you remember, she did not even post by the end of D-2. It has been Joe's task to find a replacement, and seemingly it has not been easy to find one that could join any sooner. In that I do believe Joe and I believe Joppo.

So, please, no punches below the belt. Both of you are good players and do not need that. If anything, you are admittedly the more experienced of the two. You two only need arguments here. Let the logic fly, maybe with the help of Cristine's checks. Make this fun, make this interesting. Lots of hope in both of you making this a D-3 worth being playing in.
As I said to Joppo, it occurred to me during the night but it was not something I would have mentioned had Joppo not directly revealed himself to be mafia. I only bring it up because knowing Joppo's alignment makes me think my instincts were right.

As for letting the logic fly, I've been in a standoff like this once before (Captain Sapphire the Movie if you'd like to check) and despite trying many angles I wasn't able to do anything to avert disaster.

So this time I won't take the burden of proving to you that I am town. It is the town's burden to think of ways to prove I am town or prove that Joppo is mafia.

I think it's interesting that Joppo doesn't seem to have claimed his night actions.
Posted May 27, 2020
Cop 1/1 - Cristigale (confirmed)

Doctor 2/1 - Joppo, SPF (one scum)

Regular Town 4/2 - Carradice, Gamerager, Laser, Scene (two scum)

Vigilante 1/1 - Pooka (confirmed)
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