Scenes clearly did not even bother to read the roles description at all or is manipulating in order to achieve an early mislynch.

Or it could be an over eager normal every day scene.....I say we wait to accuse anyone until after we all have claimed and cristi has dropped her info.

Also as I said: we could all just side claim(what side we're on) and that should be enough for crisit to verify or counter what we claim(based on the info she gets per investigation).

Then she can drop her results and we can narrow the pool down and find the scum players and hopefully win this.

It doesn't matter. Let's say Christi has investigated myself and Laser as town. She knows anyone else claiming Regular Town is lying because she knows both Regular Town players

This solves the game for Town. So far 3 players are avoiding full claims and those players are: yourself, Carradice and SPF I've read them. My points stands you're either being obtuse or you've OUTING SCUM. Not sure which

CLAIM NOW IF TOWN. If not we lynch you

The only reason for you not to claim is if you are Scum - CLAIM

I did claim....town. That should be enough for cristi to prove that claim or disprove it if she investigated me.

Also musing/honestly asking: Is that all? I thought there were more who hadn't claimed(full or at all)

Not trying to say i'm suspicious, but if you read them then why did you make 1(possibly 2) mistakes with regards to info in the OP post just today?

You need more than 1 vote for that, and i'm not voting anyone(even those I am suspicious of) till at least after cristi drops her results.

No we need your exact role. Only Mafia have a reason to withhold info

Cristi may have investigated 2 Town Regulars as Town. If that's the case we know a 3rd player claiming Town Regular is Mafia. Do you understand? You need to make your exact claim.

Whatever you say chief-y

Unless the scum redirected her and one of those claims doesn't hold water(rare but possible).

Eh, only thing I need to do is play in a way that allows me to enjoy playing the game**....if you dislike that/find it suspicious then vote me(or one of your other suspects) and let's get this song-dance over with already.

(**=And of course follow the game rules)

(PPE: I might do a full claim AFTER she drops her reads....but not before)

You're playing against the interests of Town. This is either a stuborn player or yes employing Scum tactics.

Right now I suspect SPF, Gamerager and Carradice Scum Team

Although I highly doubt I have all of them.

Or maybe I play a bit more to have fun than to win, as I have said time and time again. ;)

Yes, I also want my team to win, but I also play to have fun....if some want to take the game more seriously that's fine, but that's just not how I play.

Or you don't want to be confirmed scum by Christie through the process of elimination

Or you want to be able to claim Cop if she says shes inved you Scum

That's my general take away

Having slept on it, you're right. It was late and I find your manner so offputting that it was clouding my judgement.

However, I think the 'discussion' will prove useful.

Wrong.

Woah, hold up. Being town doesn't make you infallible.

We literally went over this when Laser fake shot you! Read the setup! Again!

Well that was a quick flip. Also, the "lie" you caught me in was completely imaginary.

Oh, I guess you still didn't read the set up then.

There is no role cop in the game, just the normal kind of cop.

Again: Read. The. Setup.


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Anyway, as I said before I've kind of come round to the idea of the massclaim.

*drumrollllllllllll*

I am the Doctor (now with delayed roleblocking action and posable arms).

As soon as I read the setup it was clear to me that my protection is essentially useless as long as the strongarm is still in play, and my blocking is almost useless until then.

So on N1 I protected Laser, just in case he was actually mafia (although the redirector is the only thing I can realistically block). This means Laser was blocked last night. If he's telling the truth then no harm done.
I won't reveal my N2 'protection' target yet, so they won't go into the night knowing they'll be blocked.

I'm still worried that the mafia would enthusiastically embrace a mass claim if they had managed to redirect the cop result, but as it requires knowing who the cop is it's a pretty low risk.

Well, isn't Mike the Fish quite the comedian? I meant that my pointers on people didn't stay on neutral of course and moved according to scummy or townie posts. If Mike knew to keep his mouth shut maybe he wouldn't have all those holes in his chest right now! (No hard feelings Micro, this is just me doing a bit of RP for the setting)

Well, I said I would put my reads forward and here they are I obviously removed people who were, err, removed early from this restaurant too:

02 - Scenes Supplamicz (supplementscene)
Has had a few moments of towniness interspersed with boatloads of scummy moments. That back and forth with Lazak was cringeworthy. I also didn't like that in early D2 scene puts Lazak as his top suspect when he was convinced Lazak was totes 1000% superduper townie late D1.

04 - Jocelyn Carradice, the Dancer (Carradice)
Had a bit unproductive D1, but when posted he put out decent reads. During D2 he was more consistent and, like Pooka said, felt more like his townie self from the HP game. I won't outright clear him but he doesn't smell particularly fishy to me.

05 - Lazy Walkins (LASER97)
Oh boy. Where do I start? Fakeshotting scene, which is a way of softclaiming — which several people here can remember had him foaming at the mouth in calls to lynch ZFR in the previous game. Drawing a claim from scene, and then suddenly becoming totally convinced he's 120% town based on pretty much nothing other than him having the same reaction others told could be expected from a scum!scene. Taunted Pooka to shoot him when, as Lift thoughtfully noticed, that would mean Town wasted a day (later clarified to not be true). Voted himself, was unneccessarily antagonistic in SEVERAL posts, like calling Pooka an idiot. This is definitely not the same as being an agressive player. As I read I was expecting you to start throwing profanities around. Please, tone it down.

If Laser is Town, he has done so much to divert attention towards himself that the scum should be very pleased. If he's scum, he was terribly jester-like and the only reason he didn't eat a lynch on D2 would be that Pooka shot Lift before it could happen. BTW: bad choice Pooka! I think we would be 6vs2 if you had simply let him be lynched.

06 - Cristine the Gale (Cristigale)
I found her a bit confusing to me TBH, but not exactly in a scummy sense. Just like, she somehow see towniness in even the most scummy actions? She would probably rise a lot in my suspect list after we take out the more obvious scum, but all that must be reassessed now that she claimed cop.
BTW Cristi, I have no reason to doubt your claim. Especially when no counter claims came and I I will be very surprised if one comes up.

08 - Miss Pookie Mustard (PookaMustard)
I had somewhat town-ish reads on him during my read of the game, slightly off but that was proven to be because of his PR. Now that he used the vigilante shot he's pretty much an IC.

09 - Shirley Primalley (SirPrimalform)
He is careful and methodical, doesn't post much but his posts are usually smart. I liked that he attempted to shine light on the reason why Pooka shooting someone who was going to be lynched wasn't as good as letting that someone take the lynch right away.
Still, I can't say I fully trust him to be a townie. First because of a gut feeling, but second and mainly because he is good at masking his allegiance and keep me unsure until the end on every game. I didn't like his back-and-forth with Cadaver in posts 103 to 122, but that gets a pass being too early for Cadaver to have a read. I'm also wary of him on ZFR's behalf, because he did read SPF as scum. But that was D1; during D2 he didn't look particularly scummy.

10 - Games O'Rager (GameRager)
Looks his normal self. I didn't see much content from him but that is NAI. He's the one player I can't ever get a read on. A bit amusing, but not particularly useful when it comes to deductions.




I can protect absolutely no one until that strongarm is out of the picture.

Yes you read that right, I am the doctor.

I would also hold back Lonzi's actions, but really she decided not to protect anyone. I suppose she realized it would be useless to do it until we take out the strongarm first. In fact, it would be counterproductive. No one can be protected and the only roles who could be blocked are the scum redirector (pointless) and the cop (definitely not desirable)

WHAT???

Okay everyone, gather your ballots right now. It's a standoff. One of us is a liar.

Vote SirPrimalform

Unless she didn't look into one of them or was redirected, and she has no result on one of them or one of her results is useless.....rare odds of that, but we need to take this into account, I think.
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No one? Really? That is odd....although they did have IRL issues iirc, so maybe their mind wasn't in the game...dunno how to take this bit you posted.

(I will weigh all posts and cast a vote after cristi drops their reads here)

Read above....I won't cast a vote till after cristi does their info drop.....not for SPF, or you, or anyone.

(I say this as we have lost several town and I think we need to be careful with this)

NO ONE ELSE VOTE BEFORE CRISTI GIVES RESULTS

First off thanks for joining and regardless of alignment you've put in a shift here

So you're claiming doctor. Interesting. I like that you town read SPF before going into conflict. It implies you're town but it could be a clever way of posing as town.

I think I'm slightly leaning towards you being the Town player. But I won't vote yet

Yer not my mum o.0

Totes Serious Vote on Gamerager

(Although I agree with people holding off votes til then)

Unvote Gamerager

There, now I feel better.