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JoeSapphire: Jacmel is in Haiti ;)
It's times like this I wish I could edit...
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Lifthrasil: OK. Then to be clearer, I repeat my vote with your user-name:
vote ZFR

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Flavour question (= actual question to mod and roleplay):
Friends, somehow the idea seems to be in all of us that we have to unmask one amongst us ere the sa nou pa we yo strike. But WHY do we have to? I guess we all feel their presence. But our masks protect us. So why force one of us to remove the mask? Shouldn't we all keep wearing them to thwart the sa nou pa, or does someone have reason to believe that the sacred masks won't protect us?

(out of character: do we have some motivation to vote? None of us disappeared so far or was forcefully de-masked. So how to our characters know that we have to vote?)
Good guys know that voting is always better than not voting. Only scum would want to not vote.
unvote Redfiregaming
vote Lifthrasil
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JoeSapphire: Jacmel is in Haiti ;)
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ZFR: It's times like this I wish I could edit...
You want I should create a new game and we abandon this one too?
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Lifthrasil: OK. Then to be clearer, I repeat my vote with your user-name:
vote ZFR

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Flavour question (= actual question to mod and roleplay):
Friends, somehow the idea seems to be in all of us that we have to unmask one amongst us ere the sa nou pa we yo strike. But WHY do we have to? I guess we all feel their presence. But our masks protect us. So why force one of us to remove the mask? Shouldn't we all keep wearing them to thwart the sa nou pa, or does someone have reason to believe that the sacred masks won't protect us?

(out of character: do we have some motivation to vote? None of us disappeared so far or was forcefully de-masked. So how to our characters know that we have to vote?)
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blotunga: Good guys know that voting is always better than not voting. Only scum would want to not vote.
unvote Redfiregaming
vote Lifthrasil
Only scum would misrepresent what I wrote.
1. I am voting. Which you can't have missed when reading the post you quoted.
2. I didn't say we shouldn't vote. I am perfectly aware that the game of Mafia requires voting, especially D1. Which you know very well from past games.
3. I was just asking for a flavour justification for the voting process. Which I made quite clear. With a bolded Flavour question and separated by a dashed line from the actual game post.

All this means, you are really stretching to 'find' something scummy where there isn't anything, by intentionally 'misunderstanding' what I wrote.

vote blotunga

And no. This isn't a RVS vote anymore.
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Lifthrasil: Only scum would misrepresent what I wrote.
1. I am voting. Which you can't have missed when reading the post you quoted.
2. I didn't say we shouldn't vote. I am perfectly aware that the game of Mafia requires voting, especially D1. Which you know very well from past games.
3. I was just asking for a flavour justification for the voting process. Which I made quite clear. With a bolded Flavour question and separated by a dashed line from the actual game post.

All this means, you are really stretching to 'find' something scummy where there isn't anything, by intentionally 'misunderstanding' what I wrote.

vote blotunga

And no. This isn't a RVS vote anymore.
I know you are voting, but your post feels like you want to encourage a no vote. In a democracy everyone should vote :D

Anyway until there is some serious wagon building, I'm ok with my vote.
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blotunga: your post feels like you want to encourage a no vote.
Really???

It would take lots of stretching to interpret that as a call for no-vote. So much that it feels more like a derpclear for you.
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blotunga: I know you are voting, but your post feels like you want to encourage a no vote.
And this is where you misrepresent it. For one, you should know the distinction between game mechanics and flavour. Especialy in a flavour-driven game like this one. But what's more, what I wrote was aimed in the exact opposite direction. I know the game-mechanics necessity to vote. Which is why I wanted to have a flavour-justification to vote. To reconcile flavour and mechanical game. I was pointing out that the flavour so far did not state a reason for voting and was therefore asking for some additional flavour to encourage voting. ... But of course you had to twist that by 180° to find an excuse for your vote.

And I don't think that your vote was entirely RVS either. You were testing the waters by making up a not random reason. If you actually feel that my post was aimed at promoting no-voting, then you need to learn to distinguish between flavour and game-mechanic. A little hint: the divider line and the word 'Flavour question' could both be an indication, that what follows is about flavour.

Side note: Joe actually answered the question. We feel the need to vote. We just 'know' that we have to. Which suits me fine because it means that the role-playing is now line with the mechanical necessities of the game.
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ZFR: It's times like this I wish I could edit...
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JoeSapphire: You want I should create a new game and we abandon this one too?
I'll settle for creating a vote count.

@all, anyone noticed this?
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JoeSapphire: Powers: In the action phase, you make discuss your plans here: [REDACTED]
EITHER In the action phase you can target a player - that player will be unable to vote in the next voting phase.
OR In the action phase you can target one player to eliminate from the game. Only one of the sa nou pa we yo can perform this action each night.
Seems like a new mechanic. So instead of killing a player outright, they can silence him so his vote doesn't count in the next day? Why would they want to do that when they can just kill someone to silence them permanently?
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ZFR: Seems like a new mechanic. So instead of killing a player outright, they can silence him so his vote doesn't count in the next day? Why would they want to do that when they can just kill someone to silence them permanently?
The role given as example is a PROSECUTOR. Somewhere along the road that information seems to have got REDACTED. Sorry.

yeahyeahyeah votecounts we all love doing votecounts
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JoeSapphire: The role given as example is a PROSECUTOR. Somewhere along the road that information seems to have got REDACTED. Sorry.
Mechanics question: So the Prosecutor is one possible scum role and scum can, if that role exists, both take away a vote from us AND kill (unmask) someone in the same night? As long as there are two scum left? Or do they only get one collective night-action, either prosecuting or unmasking/killing?
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Lifthrasil: Mechanics question: So the Prosecutor is one possible scum role and scum can, if that role exists, both take away a vote from us AND kill (unmask) someone in the same night?
It is possible, as you say.
blotunga, you of all people should know that Lift absolutely HATES no-lynch D1s by principle (so even the misrepresentation of Lift's post doesn't line up with Lift's own general behavior). Even Micro, new as he is, knows this.

If what you're saying is sarcasm (the "democracy" part of your reply does feels like a sarcastic response to me), please say it is. Because I can''t make sense of your posts.
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Lifthrasil: And this is where you misrepresent it. For one, you should know the distinction between game mechanics and flavour. Especialy in a flavour-driven game like this one. But what's more, what I wrote was aimed in the exact opposite direction. I know the game-mechanics necessity to vote. Which is why I wanted to have a flavour-justification to vote. To reconcile flavour and mechanical game. I was pointing out that the flavour so far did not state a reason for voting and was therefore asking for some additional flavour to encourage voting. ... But of course you had to twist that by 180° to find an excuse for your vote.

And I don't think that your vote was entirely RVS either. You were testing the waters by making up a not random reason. If you actually feel that my post was aimed at promoting no-voting, then you need to learn to distinguish between flavour and game-mechanic. A little hint: the divider line and the word 'Flavour question' could both be an indication, that what follows is about flavour.

Side note: Joe actually answered the question. We feel the need to vote. We just 'know' that we have to. Which suits me fine because it means that the role-playing is now line with the mechanical necessities of the game.
(out of character: do we have some motivation to vote? None of us disappeared so far or was forcefully de-masked. So how to our characters know that we have to vote?)
How is this not a reason, albeit flimsy?
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blotunga:
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PookaMustard: blotunga, you of all people should know that Lift absolutely HATES no-lynch D1s by principle (so even the misrepresentation of Lift's post doesn't line up with Lift's own general behavior). Even Micro, new as he is, knows this.

If what you're saying is sarcasm (the "democracy" part of your reply does feels like a sarcastic response to me), please say it is. Because I can''t make sense of your posts.
I kinda forgot that he does. As for the democracy part, ofc is it sarcasm. We all know Joe is our despot.

I was fishing, as always at the beginning. Seems like it has drawn lots of unwanted attention.