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SirPrimalform: I'm curious why you're taking trent's lead, as if me and nmillar are the only options.

Personally I think one of Redfire or blotunga is scum. Both seems unlikely as that would mean the night action in question probably didn't happen and I can't see a huge motivation for claiming it.
Not the ONLY options, but atm I have little(I have noticed) to go on, and you two seem as good as any to decide between after that other user brought you both up.

You may be right on either Red lying or blotunga verifying to hide the fact they might be scum, though.

At this point my mind is mush......decisions, decisions.
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GameRager: At this point my mind is mush......decisions, decisions.
Mine too to be honest, I had a very long and mindnumbing day at work.
If RWarehall's and RedFireGaming's claims are to be believed, and the one shot gun nut alluded to in the original post exists, then I feel that's too many power roles for town. Surely, there's at least one mafia power role, and RedFireGaming's seems the most logical, especially as it would offer protection against RWarehall's one shot vig. The use of it on Blotunga instead seems like an, "oh look, I must be town" move. This also seems too similar to a possible gun nut for both to be aligned to the same faction.

I still don't like GameRager's lack of decisiveness and long posts that don't go anywhere.

I'm also growing more suspicious of SPF, as he seems a bit too keen to buddy up to me.

Looking at the numbers, I would guess there are only 2 mafia, plus the one already confirmed neutral. If RedFireGaming is scum, then Blotunga is town. As he was jailed, and RedFireGaming was doing the jailing, then someone else would have had to carry out the night kill.

RedFireGaming and GameRager or SPF for me.
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nmillar: I'm also growing more suspicious of SPF, as he seems a bit too keen to buddy up to me.
I assure you it's just a gun in my pocket.
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nmillar: I'm also growing more suspicious of SPF, as he seems a bit too keen to buddy up to me.
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SirPrimalform: I assure you it's just a gun in my pocket.
If your gun is in your pocket, then what are you waving in people's faces?
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SirPrimalform: I assure you it's just a gun in my pocket.
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nmillar: If your gun is in your pocket, then what are you waving in people's faces?
Ohh, that was my pe- uh... Pump action shotgun.
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nmillar: If your gun is in your pocket, then what are you waving in people's faces?
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SirPrimalform: Ohh, that was my pe- uh... Pump action shotgun.
Lewd and uncalled for, good sir.

*smacks SPF with mug*

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To all: Going offline as usual for another 16-17 hours...will be back around then and hopefully figure out who to vote for.
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GameRager: ======================
What say you SPF? NMillar? What do you both have to say to convince me to not vote you two?
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At this point GameRager strikes me as a beginner who is undecided to how to commit (not that I am super experienced with 3 games under my buckle and in 2 being lynched early), but I tend to think he's town. So far I have no reason to think Red is scum either, and if he is one, he's very shrewd and I tip my hat for him.

That leaves 2 scum out of 3: SPF, nmillar and trent.

So the question is, do I follow trent and bring SPF to L-1 or do I look more closely at nmillar and trent?

Does anyone have different thoughts?
I forgot about RWarehall, his story is so crazy, I can't believe he just made it up. So leaning town also
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blotunga: I forgot about RWarehall, his story is so crazy, I can't believe he just made it up. So leaning town also
Yeah, the guy who murderered (well, took the gun from) someone immediately on N1 with tenuous reasoning... Why he's so crazy he couldn't possibly be a SK!
There are other aspects that do give him town points but the story ain't one of them!
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SirPrimalform: Yeah, the guy who murderered (well, took the gun from) someone immediately on N1 with tenuous reasoning... Why he's so crazy he couldn't possibly be a SK!
There are other aspects that do give him town points but the story ain't one of them!
You think we have 1 SK and 1 regular scum? What would be the point of such a setup. They couldn't communicate at night, the only advantage may be that they can both perform kills. We can ask red to send him to the toilet just to be sure...
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SirPrimalform: Yeah, the guy who murderered (well, took the gun from) someone immediately on N1 with tenuous reasoning... Why he's so crazy he couldn't possibly be a SK!
There are other aspects that do give him town points but the story ain't one of them!
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blotunga: You think we have 1 SK and 1 regular scum? What would be the point of such a setup. They couldn't communicate at night, the only advantage may be that they can both perform kills. We can ask red to send him to the toilet just to be sure...
I don't know how many pacifists there arenbut I wouldn't have guessed only one. Do you think the only chance there's a SK is with one pacifist?
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SirPrimalform: I don't know how many pacifists there arenbut I wouldn't have guessed only one. Do you think the only chance there's a SK is with one pacifist?
2 pacifist and 1 sk would be too much from what I understand. Also a SK would risk immensely to claim on the first night. He could've just laid low and keep us in the dark imho. If he's really SK, he's trying a dangerous gambit.
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SirPrimalform: I don't know how many pacifists there arenbut I wouldn't have guessed only one. Do you think the only chance there's a SK is with one pacifist?
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blotunga: 2 pacifist and 1 sk would be too much from what I understand. Also a SK would risk immensely to claim on the first night. He could've just laid low and keep us in the dark imho. If he's really SK, he's trying a dangerous gambit.
My understanding is that in terms of balancing the presense of the SK weakens the mafia and vice versa.
I agree it's a risky strategy, but to make it to the end as a SK is difficult. Posing as a spent vig is smart if they have the option of not killing (not all SKS are compulsive). The mafia don't bother killing because they think the vig is spent, the town think they have a "confirmed" townie. It's pretty smart.
The worst case scenario is if RW is SK and we mislynch the game may well be over in the morning (unless the SK and/or mafia hit each other).