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flubbucket: **21 hours into the Day and still no Joe (Bookwyrm627).
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dedoporno: That's concerning beyond the state of the game. Wyrm isn't one to hide for the sake of the game. I hope he's alright.

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flubbucket: Are these two possibilities in play if Microfish_1 is lying about his claim??
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dedoporno: How can Micro be lying about it if no-one else counter-claims the kill?
If you look closely at the two possibilities I quoted....

There's no 1-shot vigilante listed.
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flubbucket: If you look closely at the two possibilities I quoted....

There's no 1-shot vigilante listed.
Oh, you mean he could be lying about his 1-shot-ness?
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flubbucket: If you look closely at the two possibilities I quoted....

There's no 1-shot vigilante listed.
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dedoporno: Oh, you mean he could be lying about his 1-shot-ness?
I'm not trying to insinuate anything. I'm asking.

What do you think of the last two possibilities??

Can they happen with a 1-shot vig claim??
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flubbucket: My choice is Bookwyrm627 because the Day has been open for over 10 hours and he's not shown up yet.

Vote: Bookwyrm627
Huh.

Well, yesterday was Sunday. I'm here now and reading.
Two kills but the SK is already dead.

Therefore, there is a vig.

Micro claimed vig. Dedo and Flub have denied being a PR.

Pooka and Gogtrial have had plenty of time to counter claim 1-shot Vig, but have not done so.

I'm not going to counter claim the 1-shot Vig.

Only one 1-shot Vig is possible in the game.

There is no good reason for town!Micro to lie about his claim.

Therefore, Micro is 1-shot vig and lock town.

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Every townie has a 50% chance of hitting scum if they just vote randomly among the eligible players.

I think this game is getting pretty close to being over, one way or another.
Gogtrial and Pooka, I have a question.

It is just the three of us left: how do you feel about making this a mass claim?
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flubbucket: My choice is Bookwyrm627 because the Day has been open for over 10 hours and he's not shown up yet.

Vote: Bookwyrm627
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Bookwyrm627: Huh.

Well, yesterday was Sunday. I'm here now and reading.
What does yesterday was Sunday have to do with anything??

Literally every other player had posted multiple times......on Sunday.
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Bookwyrm627: Gogtrial and Pooka, I have a question.

It is just the three of us left: how do you feel about making this a mass claim?
Sure.

I only have my voice and my vote.
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flubbucket: What does yesterday was Sunday have to do with anything??

Literally every other player had posted multiple times......on Sunday.
That means it was a weekend, which means potential blocks of free time while the sun is still up.

Family went on vacation, so I decided to take some time off from the world and play some Age of Wonders 2: Wizard's Throne all afternoon. And evening. And longer than I should have at night. If they hadn't left, I probably wouldn't have had the time to dig into Mafia anyway.

I don't feel guilty either, since prod-time isn't until tomorrow. So there, nyah nyah. ;)
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gogtrial34987: ............
DDBVVBT (Doctor + 1-shot Doctor + roleblocker + full vig + 1-shot roleblocker)
DDBVVCT (Doctor + 1-shot Doctor + roleblocker + full vig + 1-shot cop)
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flubbucket: Are these two possibilities in play if Microfish_1 is lying about his claim??
If microfish is lying about his claim, then he is mafia, which means (in this entire hypothesis) that he'd know that we're in one of the scenarios where there are unexposed PRs in play. Now that Bookwyrm also hasn't counterclaimed the 1-shot vig role, that means that these two possibilities are only in play if microfish is lying.
(A potential full vig can't counterclaim micro for certain, as the DDBVVVT possibility means that both could exist. Still, the lack of bodies suggests that no full vig is in play, which means that micro is lock town, and so these two possibilities disappear.)

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Bookwyrm627: It is just the three of us left: how do you feel about making this a mass claim?
I have no objection. Do you have a preference for who should claim first?

Note that I'm still going to be mostly absent for the next hour and a bit.
bump if needed
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Bookwyrm627: It is just the three of us left: how do you feel about making this a mass claim?
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gogtrial34987: I have no objection. Do you have a preference for who should claim first?

Note that I'm still going to be mostly absent for the next hour and a bit.
I'd intended some discussion on whether to proceed; I've been mulling it over and waffling some.

Looks like we're doing it, though, so I'd like Pooka to finish his claim, then you next.
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Bookwyrm627: I'd intended some discussion on whether to proceed; I've been mulling it over and waffling some.

Looks like we're doing it, though, so I'd like Pooka to finish his claim, then you next.
But I did claim.

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PookaMustard: I only have my voice and my vote.
Basically I am Vanilla Town.

What of you, Bookwyrm? Claiming after gogtrial?
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Bookwyrm627: I don't feel guilty either, since prod-time isn't until tomorrow. So there, nyah nyah. ;)
Please read the OP. Specifically rule 15.
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Bookwyrm627: I don't feel guilty either, since prod-time isn't until tomorrow. So there, nyah nyah. ;)
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ZFR: Please read the OP. Specifically rule 15.
Reading is for suckers!