My vote on blotunga was to gauge reactions. I answered gamerager about the unvote not Micro. As for Scene, I am still not certain now that he is scum. His reactions are not what I would expect from a scum Scene, and the same goes for blotunga. My gut is telling me that neither of them are scum.

Unvote blotunga

What are your thoughts on bookwyrm, flub, dedo, gogtrial, and Micro?

I didn't manage to come back yesterday as we had a bit of a midnight emergency. Anyway, I'm catching up right now.

How do you know that though?

This is interesting you've moved to Blotunga's wagon to make him L2 after the second vote on Gogtrial. Both wagons have had unvoted support. This seems either opportunistic or a defensive action towards Gogtrial. I'm guessing either Mafia buddies or Masons

I acknowledge you could just be trying to ensure a lynch and Blotunga's looking more likely perhaps. But should you go with your strongest read anyway?

Vote Count

(When you see a vote count please quickly make sure your vote is against the correct player. Let me know if it's not)

blotunga 4 - JoeSapphire, flub, dedoporno, Bookwyrm
scene 3 - gogtrial, GameRager, Pooka
gogtrial 2 - scene, Micro
trent 1 - agentcarr
JoeSapphire 1 - SirPrimalform
flub 1 - blotunga

Everyone else - 0
Not voting: trent

13 players left. It takes 7 to lynch.
blotunga is closest at L-3

Around 8 hrs till deadline

Did you feel you are going to end up garnering the rest of the votes before scene which triggered this claim?


OK, wow. Also, no one do that, please.


Finally, something I can wholeheartedly agree with. Still, the fact that it's needed to point this out says something.
On a similar not, if blotunga ends up being today's lynch and is scum indeed it's probably a good idea to make note of who filled the last bit of necessary votes and at what point.


...oof?


OK, I'm caught up even though it's a bit in a rush.

I don't a whole lot happened to make me reconsider my vote on blotunga. His claim seemed weird and even though he presented a reason on claiming early I'm not sure it was actually needed and/or called for. Also, it's an unfortunate vanilla claim which makes things harder.

On the other hand scene keeps doing things that irk me. I don't think they are scum together though.

I think I'll be able to make one more drop-by around deadline but I believe that I'd like to be on one of these wagons at the end of the day. I'm not really interested in voting others at this point.

Because 'Jack the Ripper' isn't a figure in popular culture like the other 2 are, he's a serial killer which is likely a play on roles.

Do you think blotunga to be more likely to be scum than scene, or do you think blotunga to be a more likely or more useful lynch than scene?

I fear I have to concur with this. I want scene to be scum, as it would make everything very neat, and would make me feel good about seeing through him right away. But I've only been getting more uncertain as the day has progressed. He doesn't read, he misrepresents, he misunderstands - in short, he's super frustrating. But he gives only a few of the reactions I'd expect from scum-scene despite repeated pushing.

I'd have no regrets if we end up lynching him and it turns out to be a mislynch, as it'd remove a major source of distractions and give us lots of things to work with.

I also don't know what the alternative is. blotunga seems obvious, and has the support. How do you read the fact that no one joined you until bookwyrm just now?

Oh, actually, could you expand a bit on how blotunga's reactions aren't what you'd expect from scum-blotunga?

Microfish is for me the most interesting alternative, as I don't think anyone has him as anything other than "neutral" at best. I have to guard against an omgus reaction here, though, and if he flips town, that gives us nothing useful.

The way you, trent, have moved your vote off scene (and just now off blotunga) reminds me strongly of the way you did so in #55 (where you were both mafia) - in both cases you then found reasons not to get back on his wagon. I fear your play is more involved when mafia, though, and of course if scene is town, then your unvote isn't significant at all, but just a case of keeping two competing wagons in sync. (I guess I could kinda see a trent-blotunga scum team if I squint? Well played if so, though, as the way you kept his wagon viable would be pretty gutsy.)

I don't. what I said was (rephrased, with emphasis):
I think:
1) scene looks worse than blot,
2) but both of them are innocent

Really nothing else feels suspicious? Also why would you look at mt wagon only if I turn out scum? What if I don't. Ok I claimed early, if I had a PR I would've waited until the last moment. Alas can't undo that.
Yes scene feels odd at times, but I think it might be his usual play.

@trent at this point micro and pooka don't seem odd for me (thought pooka did feel overanalytical, not sure what to make of it yet), dedo seems odd but irl issues might get in the way, still he seems rather disinterested (maybe lurking), have no definite read. My suspects revolve around flub and gogtrial atm and since flub's wagon isn't going anywhere, I am willing to lynch gogtrial. He had a lot of nitpicking posts trying to divert attention to me, while not changing vote from scene. Odd.
From wyrm I had no vibes until now, it feels odd how she suddenly switched wagons. However she started the scene wagon and I think scum would avoid starting wagons on the first day. Though, who knows?

You say weird things, I nitpick them to gauge how you respond (and to point them out to others, and to document my thinking). That's how I play.
Saying that I "try to divert attention to you", when you were getting lots of attention already, feels like misrepresenting to me. What was I diverting attention away from at that point? (If you believe I'm scum, this should be very significant!)
scene also questioned me not voting for you, to which I responded in #297. Does that explanation not make sense to you?

Look at some old games; I'd say scum starts the eventual lynch wagon just as often as town. (Also, "he" afaik)

I'll have people over for the next couple of hours; will try to look in once or twice, but will basically be gone until an hour or two before deadline.
If the people who have been signalling willingness to vote me make my wagon take off, and scene's wagon keeps looking less and less viable, I'm obviously willing to switch my vote to blotunga. My list in #292 on who all I'd be willing to vote is in essence still accurate.

5 Hours to go, can everyone post a list of willing to Lynch in order of preference please?

Mine is currently:

Gogtrial
Gamerager
Bookwyrm
Blotunga
Trent

Also not happy with SPF, Agent and Blotunga having votes on people with zero chance of getting lynched today. It's almost like they're saying 'Hey I don't want to get blamed for being on any of these Town Wagons'.

@Blotunga if you don't vote for a wagon that has lynch potential in the next few hours I'll have no other choice but to vote for you

It's obvious that a wagon should be looked at and analyzed, especially if it turns out a mislynch. I specifically mentioned the scum scenario since scumbuddies who weren't on your wagon but saw you were getting lynched anyway are likely to try and hide by trying to at least bus you. Maybe I'm misreading this but initially this felt like word-twisting and nitpicking the Town-favorable scenario which is a bit odd but maybe I'm misinterpreting the situation.

That's the thing. I was under the same impression but it just doesn't stop. It only adds up.

As for me being disinterested - that's not exactly true since I wouldn't have taken part in the game if I were but it's not exactly false either. The game isn't my first priority at the moment since I'm spending time with my family. And I did have to drive in the middle of the night to the hospital :)
Anyway, all of this is outside of the game. I promise you and everyone else here that I'm not abusing this in any way. I don't mind if you suspect me for being scum as that's how the game works, just don't think I'd hide behind personal stuff for the sake of the game.


I believe the deadline is in an hour or so, not sure if I'll be around but I'll try.

Hopefully nothing too serious Dedo.

Deadline is in 4 hours from now