Sorry to see you go, although certainly not a surprise. Your bah post made me smile. Also, you asked a question that I'll answer assuming you are reading. It was right for you to claim. Without your claim, I almost certainly would have voted for muddy. Bler spoke to the reasoning in his response to my scale 1-10 question.

Where did you see Ixam's 'veracity brought into question' prior to your vote? Why were you doubting him?

Your vote showed no indicated of any suspicion....it read more like, "hey, I don't need to take a real stand here...I can toss out my vote in a safe place and let everyone else decide" And if you are scum it read more like, "Hey...it looks like muddy is going to get lynched. I can vote my buddy without fear of him being lynched"


Should have included this with the last post. With only 12 players, I doubt there are two neutrals in the game. But who knows, I've been wrong before.

@flub - can you expand on why you still appear to be suspicious of muddy? Did you see something specific?

Not really anything specific, but that is part of my concern.

And the latest call from him for agentcarr16 to possibly be neutral doesn't fill me with a warm gooey center.


I'm most likely off my rocker.

You should lynch me NOW!


Vote: agentcarr16

Lunch is cold leftovers today. Handed in by a dispassionate guard, who looks at you as if you were all already dead. Actually, you do feel it. The gloom and the doubt. You sit in your corners, looking at each other across the room with distrust, but not much fight left in you. Maybe it's best to give up and just let the Witches win? Who cares, what they will do to the village? Has the village done anything for you, lately? ... But then, of course, giving up means death and outside these walls, far away from Salem, there may still be a life to live!

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The: 'hey, we have a vote!' Vote Count:

agent 1 - flubb 693

not voting: agent, muddy, bler, cristi
agent is at L-2, Decision Bell will ring tomorrow.

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My my, what a busy day.

Yes, I can hardly keep up with y'all, tallying all those votes. They keep being placed so much quicker than I can count them! ;-)

It's just a thought I had. I had this impression of agent kinda going with the flow trying to lynch anyone who isn't him. He followed you twice. Once onto Joe (post 165 vs 178) and once onto ZFR (post 380 vs 416) and if you want to count it scene as well (post 91 vs 127). All three of those he was wrong on (so were you). Then he votes Ixam a little prematurely. Is that bussing or is that neutral not caring if Ixam or I am the target?

I can't speak to balance issues at all but I think Ixam's reaction when I suggested 3 mafia were a possibility was genuine. Ref post 496. Does Ixam on a 3 mafia team think town/neutral expect a 3 mafia team or 2 mafia team? Likewise if he's on a 2 mafia team. All this could be way off though.

1 mafia left I like one of flubb or agent. 2 mafia left I like one of flubb or agent and one of you or cristi. All of this subject to change depending on the flips after lynch and NK.

Why don't you vote for me then??

I think you missed my point. Ixam seemed surprised when I suggested mafia could have three. Was this all part of the fake claim? Not sure. But I think Ixam on a 3 mafia team would have expressed less surprise there than if he was on a 2 mafia team.

And since we're close to phase 2 I'll vote flubb.

Oh, I got your musing. He was faking, unless he wasn't and you think he was probably not faking but could have been. Isn't that exactly what you're saying?

And I'm not trying to be a jerk, just mocking gently. ;)

Eeither you're intentionally creating noise, or you're speculating based on one apparent reaction (490/496) by someone who has flipped mafia and if I went back and tallied up probably made at least a half dozen posts that are, in retrospect, completely false, but probably also sprinkled the day with some truth and you're trying to suss out (or trying to look like sussing out) if one particular piece of the whole is true.

So I don't know what you're doing, exactly, but to me it looks at first glance imo mostly like what he was posting was intended to justify his waffling back and forth on whether he was voting you or not and you were suspicious but maybe not super suspicious but maybe suspicious, etc.

Like cristi I think the lyncher is <probably> more telling since it's real data, but still not particularly definitive.

What does your musing indicate you or anyone else should <do> exactly? ;)

Not sure I have much to add at this point.

@bler - your light is on, you here?

bler's light went off so waiting the 10...

Agent saying basically nothing with his check in is not a good look. If two scum exist outside of agent (which I doubt), agent could have been hammered. I doubt enough time has passed to say the same about the vote on flubb.

If there is one scum remaining, the shift to phase 2 causing a self-vote s not a big deal. If there are 2 scum remaining, a self-vote is potentially perilous. With that in mind I need to place a vote before checking out. Phase 2 will likely be in place before I return.

Agent is my top choice for scum.
@agent - if you are town, your play also baffles me the past two games days, I see no attempt to solve the game today and minimal attempt on D3

I'm banking on bler as town. I have a hard time seeing an Ixam/flubb/muddy scum team. That's the only combo I see that could potentially end the game with my vote.

Agent could be the only remaining scum. That seems unbalanced in town's favor depending on how the lyncher's target was selected.
If there are two scum remaining, either flubb or muddy is paired with agent.

Vote agent

<sigh> I hope I am right...

*wink*

Vote flubbucket