Posted November 17, 2018

ZFR
I love gold!
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ireland

cristigale
Yip Yip
Registered: Apr 2012
From United States

ZFR
I love gold!
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ireland
Posted November 17, 2018

As you said, win or lose together. If a lone townie votes mafia and other townie vote town, they lose together.
So it depends on the situation. Lone players can be pro town or anit town.

Ixamyakxim
Boxer Dogs Rule
Registered: Feb 2014
From United States
Posted November 17, 2018
I didn't think you were trying to lie / misrepresent - there were just a lot of votes flying. And the "heh" isn't toward you - it was more toward (assuming what you saw was correct? ZFR seems to think not) ZFR / P1na - that maybe one doesn't really want the double lynch (though I sort of tend to doubt that) or that the other DOES. I just seems to suggest the mouths and votes aren't lining up.

cristigale
Yip Yip
Registered: Apr 2012
From United States
Posted November 17, 2018

More to come, so perhaps you'll have a clearer picture a bit later Today.
BTW, it sounds like you have some analysis coming and I look forward to reading it.

ZFR
I love gold!
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ireland
Posted November 17, 2018

I'm trying to get a couple of posts out, but very quickly - how do you mean "heh" in this instance?

The only thing this made me think is that maybe you're not mafia. SPF-HSL-bler then? SPF-HSL-cristi?

my name is catte
i touch your foods
Registered: Mar 2010
From United Kingdom
Posted November 17, 2018


The only thing this made me think is that maybe you're not mafia. SPF-HSL-bler then? SPF-HSL-cristi?
Vote ZFR

HypersomniacLive
The Reluctant Voter
Registered: Sep 2011
From Vatican City

cristigale
Yip Yip
Registered: Apr 2012
From United States
Posted November 17, 2018


As you said, win or lose together. If a lone townie votes mafia and other townie vote town, they lose together.
So it depends on the situation. Lone players can be pro town or anit town.

HypersomniacLive
The Reluctant Voter
Registered: Sep 2011
From Vatican City
Posted November 17, 2018
That wasn't what I wanted you to clarify.
cristigale: That's fair, our play styles are different. But please consider this, it's a team game. When you keep your reads a secret, town has a difficult time parsing you. Just because you are asking probing questions, doesn't make you town. We both know you can do that as either alignment. So help me out here, is there anyone you think is scum (actual scum, not a self-pres vote)? Waiting until what seems like the last minute (when we are not certain when a day will end) does make me paranoid.
BTW, it sounds like you have some analysis coming and I look forward to reading it. My analysis is of limited scope, and scattered a bit over several posts; don't think it's prudent to offer full reads lists on the eve of N2 for a couple of reasons. But I made clear who I think is scum, and who else has caught my attention, and for what reason(s).
Speaking of scum - my vote on ZFR isn't a self-pres one, as seems to be your impression. I intended to vote him for the reasons in my post #443, and was planning to do things in the proper order (lay out reasons, place vote); the bait had served its purpose, and it was time to make clear where I stand. But he saw fit to go full-bore with his voting shenanigans while I was still typing my posts, which made it look like my vote was a self-pres one.
On a side note - I didn't intentionally wait until the last minute, nor was it my intention to make anyone paranoid. Well, except perhaps the mafia. I had problems with my heating system for the last couple of days, and taking care of them was a priority. Unlike ZFR, I didn't think our mod would end the Day as soon as he opened his eyes on Saturday morning (I was keeping somewhat of an eye on the thread on that borrowed mobile), and I did get on as soon as things returned to normal. Which was way earlier than I usually do/have time, exactly because it's EoD2.

BTW, it sounds like you have some analysis coming and I look forward to reading it.
Speaking of scum - my vote on ZFR isn't a self-pres one, as seems to be your impression. I intended to vote him for the reasons in my post #443, and was planning to do things in the proper order (lay out reasons, place vote); the bait had served its purpose, and it was time to make clear where I stand. But he saw fit to go full-bore with his voting shenanigans while I was still typing my posts, which made it look like my vote was a self-pres one.
On a side note - I didn't intentionally wait until the last minute, nor was it my intention to make anyone paranoid. Well, except perhaps the mafia. I had problems with my heating system for the last couple of days, and taking care of them was a priority. Unlike ZFR, I didn't think our mod would end the Day as soon as he opened his eyes on Saturday morning (I was keeping somewhat of an eye on the thread on that borrowed mobile), and I did get on as soon as things returned to normal. Which was way earlier than I usually do/have time, exactly because it's EoD2.

cristigale
Yip Yip
Registered: Apr 2012
From United States
Posted November 17, 2018
Wow, other than Hyper's last post, it's gone quiet.

ZFR
I love gold!
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ireland
Posted November 17, 2018

random.org doesn't care about catching players off guard. You waited till 3pm of deadline (Lift's time. 2pm UCT). How on earth is that good Town strategy?
No, I don't feel bad using mafia's self vote to secure his lynch. I'd do it again. You willfully chose late vote strategy with all the associated risks. Remember D1 of Poppy's game?

cristigale
Yip Yip
Registered: Apr 2012
From United States
Posted November 17, 2018
I think this is current vote count:
Ixam 1 - flubb (391)
ZFR 5 - bler (380), agent (416), HSL (419), cristi (435), SirP (442)
SirP 1 - muddy (403)
HSL 3 - Ixam (347), P1na(413), ZFR (421)
I thought ZFR was at 4 votes, but I missed agent's vote when tracking earlier. If so, ZFR is at L-1.
@ZFR - do you indend to claim?
Ixam 1 - flubb (391)
ZFR 5 - bler (380), agent (416), HSL (419), cristi (435), SirP (442)
SirP 1 - muddy (403)
HSL 3 - Ixam (347), P1na(413), ZFR (421)
I thought ZFR was at 4 votes, but I missed agent's vote when tracking earlier. If so, ZFR is at L-1.
@ZFR - do you indend to claim?

ZFR
I love gold!
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ireland

my name is catte
i touch your foods
Registered: Mar 2010
From United Kingdom