Is this what we might expect from Hypersomniaclive? I kind of imagined if he was a mafia going down he'd be all calm and confident and rise above it. But I have no basis for that. Does he tend to flip out when danger looms?

You're right, it doesn't matter, as you somehow (conveniently?) skipped my actual question on all this theorising.


Wait, are you saying that you're not regular Lovers? (just kidding, I saw your EBWOP)

Weren't you the one that laid out to mchack how a Masons claim is typically/generally a policy lynch? Let me check that... yep, you were (post #783). Now, JoeSapphire said something about stray bullets, but NKs are not exactly stray shots, are they?


I will once you've answered my question from post #925 that you skipped.


If I were a very cynical person, I'd might be inclined to read some subtle fishing here...


I thought that the reference to Vitek's bus routes is a dead give away, but looks like I should have added a /S /jk disclaimer.

If you still want me to answer this question seriously, let me know.


Why would you immediately think that my comment expresses doubt about his statement? I know that scum!trentonlf's very cool, so I can quite easily see him do what he said if it'd make him look more townie, I just haven't. Yet.


It doesn't? Heh.


While partially true, nice skipping everything else I said about your EoD3, thanks.


That's part of my argument, so... exactly.


Your post #723 begs to differ [emphasis added]

If it most certainly did, then I have to wonder how much more strongly you were town-reading Bookwyrm627, and for what.


I already said what my flip will tell you. Unless you're asking me something else in which case, elaborate?


Why wouldn't I? In spite what you all seem to have concluded/decided, my win condition isn't [interpolated] "kill all the town!" And with "all" I mean all the town, of course; the mafia obviously knows, and has had the town dance to their tune for Days now.


If you haven't been paying attention to what arguments people make for their preferred lynches, what are you looking at when go back, and reread and check?

Bookwyrm627 used it too, but he's a smart and cunning cookie, so hasn't been hammering it. He was, however, the very first to bring it up D3 (post #552). Then mchack joined in, followed by SirPrimalform.
SirPrimalform should be the easiest, just ISO him, practically all of his D3 posts to me are about this.
Vitek's been hammering it in all his D4 posts when referring to me.


I'm going to give my reads on all three of them. Why are you so interested in getting an answer to this?


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And while nobody seems to care, I did run the numbers, so if I didn't screw up somewhere:

- Lovers claim is false -
We're obviously not going to lynch one of them Today because of the risk of it being true after all.
This means a certain mislynch on D4, and LyLo on D5.

- Lovers claim is true -
We're again obviously not going to lynch one of them Today.
If we mislynch on D4, we're either at LyLo or MyLo on D5, depending on how the mafia want/decide to play it (go for the double-kill, or try and get us to mislynch them on D5 on the basis they survived N4).

Whatever the case, Tomorrow is most likely our last chance to put the noose around a scum neck, so the town lot better get their act together.


Reads will have to wait until tomorrow; it's gotten pretty late, and I want to cross-check a couple of things.

Another lost post after whole browser crashed. :-/


Guh, I rewrote it and in the process messed it up. As the original has 2 positives and I preferred 2 negatives I wanted to change marry to mutilate and broke it. The kiss in that purt wasn't suppose to be there at all.

I should say it is not that so it can't be said I am trying to look town but I guess it is the case. :-)
It is possible I vote more as mafia.
But considering that last time I was mafia was 7 years ago, it is hard to tell and everything could have changed since then.
I was exaggerating a bit before. I will not lynch buddy just for the kicks but as soon as they pick heat for something I will be very willing to push their wagon to the finish line.
I wouldn't say I am not willing to vote anyone. There is many poeple I'd like to vote most of the game, it is the matter who deserves my vote most at any moment that makes me stand my hand.

Hm, good question. Maybe they argued more? I actually am not sure. Perhaps it was just a feeling or I saw something when reading through the game but I can't remember it now.

Not sold is not the same as thinking they are lying.
That you don't have any inclination this deep into game is quite problematic, ain't it?
Most people said if there tend to believe it or not and I hoped to learn if you do but what I got was being "not sold" but having no inclination.


The game is not moving much and that is no fun and reads are not something I am expecting form you anymore (you said yourself you have no inclinations so far) so there is no reason not to move things a bit.

No idea.
I have very little experience playing with him and I don't recall situation where I encountered him like mafia that is about to be lynched.
But it is not unusual to see mafia behave like that. And town sometimes too.

:-(
Sad but true.

I made a list going through all possibilities I could think of at the start of the Day but then I decided it could give mafia ideas so I posted ito nly in my personal quickchat. So it's not like I don't care, I just haven't gone public with it. :-)

Huzzah!

Did I need anything else?

It is something of an advertising thing.

Assume that ZFR made the sign up thread before rolling to determine the exact setup. That means he's got the twist in mind, but if it is related to the rolls (like masons become lover masons), then there is no guarantee that the twist is actually in the game at all.

However, if he rolls first (before making the sign up thread or advertising the twist), he could then play with the setup some after seeing what he's working with, and he'll be able to declare that a twist is actually in the game.

So much truth.

Unvote: HypersomniacLive


Vote: Vitek

1. I believe Joe and gotrials claim and honestly couldn’t imagine scene being mafia with them, but after you pointed it out it made me realize scenes actions from this game, and last, was one of ignoring most of what was said to him. So if he was on a team with goagtrial and Joe that proving they have a Day chat shouldn’t exclude the fact that mafia could have a Day chat.

2. I don’t think I can remember a game in the past where gogtrial was scum and I’m not sure how he would actually play it, and so I don’t know if his scum game is close to his town game. My point though was that if he had been playing like Joe I would say he’s probably scum.

Vote count:

HSL - 2: SPF, Bookwyrm
Vitek -2: Joe, flub
Bookwyrm -1: trent

Not voting - 3: gogtrial, HSL, Vitek

8 players. Takes 5 to lynch.

Are you thinking that mafia will never unwittingly kill unclaimed lovers because they'd be wittingly killing unclaimed cops and doctors instead?
I'm not sure what your point is, but you might just have to agree that lovers are more harmful to town than masons.

really? why?

Anyone up for some poetry?

we're ready? who's ready?

I’m ready



Ready

gogtrial's got to disappear for a while so we'll try again in two hoursish. If there's still no-one around we'll just take a screenshot and move on with our lives.


joe's lynch preferences (hot to not)

trentonlf
bookwyrm
vitek
hypersomnia
sirp
flubb
gogtrial

basically through process of elimination. Sprimal because of supplementscene's vote. hypersomnia because of the way he's acted the whole game, and I see his recent frustation as 'argh why is no-one understanding why am I alone on this?' rather than 'You found me out i hate you all'. I could easily be wrong, but that's my feeling - if we were expecting a serial killer I think Hypersomnia's reactions would fit that, but just based on the one-kill-per-night pattern, I'm making a safe bet there's no serial killer (or it's sprimal). vitek because lately he's been alright and flubbucket voting makes me feel less special about being the only one who suspects him. bookwyrm's been very focused on proving whether or not we have daychat, whichis at least dominating my time and proving a big pain. trent's done a few things in this game that stuck in my mind as funny, but everybody else just said 'aw pshaw'. bookwyrm and trentonlf could be mafia buddies so they share hottest lynch title.


bookwyrm & trentonlf - Hypothesise Hypersomnia is confirmed somehow as mafia, who do you reckon his buddy is?
bookwyrm & trentonlf - HypothesomniacLive lynched and flips town - how do we find the remaining mafias?



Now a bit less than two hoursish after I typed all that...

I had to go afk due to a real life emergency, which luckily turned out less bad than expected. I told Joe to be back in 2 hrs, but if he's still around, I think we should just do this, even with only one witness.
Hah, simultaneous post with the 2 hours thing; that in itself should be proof already. :D

little bro
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