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New rule: throwing rocks is not allowed.
Crap. Quicktopic is broken hete too.
*throws marshmallows at ZFR*
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ZFR: New rule: throwing rocks is not allowed.
Can we throw shade?
New plan. Let's throw wood chips. Large, pointy wood chips.
Once this whisky glass is empyt I can throw it.


Ot I can refill it.

Refilll it si.
Hello everybody! Sorry about my drawn-out absence. Work is much more boring lately…

McHack flipped doctor – good to know, sad he’s gone. Looks like everybody else was pretty much certain that he was telling the truth, but I couldn’t be sure.
You lynched IxamxYakxim without me. He was pretty lurky and pretty sure I would have got on board if I was around.

Bookwyrm /835
My role name is Sergiu Costava and I'm Town Sibling with gogtrial. We have a day chat, I know gogtrial is town, and because we share tent and will protect one another to the death, I die if he gets lynched or nightkilled, and vice-versa. We win if there’s no more anti-town players.
So it’s called siblings but it’s the role I know as lovers.

RE – ‘are lovers harmful to town, and what would compensate for that?’ Yes. And practically anything. I’ve been resisting the urge to speculate wildly.

Flubbucket /841
Dreams abound o_0

Vitek /843
Joe and gogtrial suspected one another – I mentioned gogtrial in my suspicions a few times because I thought mafia might notice a complete avoidance of one another and get bad vibes from that. As it turned out I ended up completely avoiding bookwyrm, which gave Hypersomnia bad vibes… typical.
I also reckoned that I could say what I like about gogtrial and he wouldn’t get lynched. If one of us was going down, it was going to be me. That was apparent from the beginning. This role stresses me out like nobody’s business. I’m much happier now we’re ‘out n proud’
“Claim?” – I’d be up for it. I’ve not been present for a mass claim in ages, and a lot of powers are dead already.

Vitek /846
Trent and HSL are best mates Interesting…

Vitek /847
gogtrial and joe didn’t vote scene d2 We were both ready to vote supplementscene, if certain people weren’t so hasty :p

Vitek/848
Lifthrasil wasn’t cop, but colp lololol

Vitek/850
bookwyrm could be supplementscene’s buddy Who was it that said bookwyrm and supplementscene don’t make sense as a team?

Vitek/851
”Don't you realise how much effort it takes to not post again?!”
): sorry. I’m very much glad of your good work so far. Even if you are scum bastard ;)

Trentonlf/859
[in response to vitek ‘trent and hsl are best mates, here’s some info on trent’s voting regarding supplementscene] I voted supplementscene because I read over the day again and based my decision on that, and nothing to do with PM, unlike scummy scummy McHack. – Did you? I’ve mentioned being suspicious of your change-of-mind between Day One and Day Two a couple of times and you haven’t mentioned it then (unless I missed it…) but I don’t really see how it connects to what vitek’s saying.

Sprimal /868
jogtrial lololol

Flubbucket/869
:0 !!

Flubbucket /870
why kill one when you can kill two? Probably hoping I'd challenge vitek and hypersomnia to a voting match again...

HypersomniacLive/872
why harder to confirm just one lover – vitek’s probs already answered this, but if you lynch one of us, you lynch both. So confirming one alone is tricky. ;p
confrontation isn’t the way to catch scum trentonlf – What is? What happens if you confront him?
Hypersomnia also busts out an aloof “curious,” in this post. Which earns him much drama points.
Vitek and bookwyrm might be scum, because dedo died, and Lifthrasil died - is that what you're suspecting, Hypersomnia?

gogtrial/ 875
I just got that we both get modkilled together. It hadn't occurred to me what that actually meant until just now. That hardly seems fair!
Hypersomniac's 'heh' makes me feel warm and fuzzy. Funny. Because they fill me with icy dread.

trentonlf/877
I will bus my buddy at the drop of a hat, may I refer you to the beginning of Day Two as an example... Interesting...

trentonlf/881
"I totally missed that post from bookwyrm" It's easy to do isn't it? He's like a shadow!..

bookwyrm/889
I reckoned Joe might be mafia but gogtrial is obvs 100% town
);
*sigh*
...yeah...
[wistful] *sigh*
Sprimalform might be serial killer If anybody would wait until the very end of the game to start killing people it would be him...
ideas for how to prove day chat? If somebody comes up with a challenge or other, where be both post simultaneously, but would have to have collaborated on what we post, would that work? Gogtrial's idea is that we split a poem up between us, so if one of you states a poem or something we could give it a go. The difficulty would be me finding a time when I can reliably be near some internet...

zfr/903
quicktopic is broken here too - I take it that doesn't count as proof of our day-chat? ;)

Okay. I'm sort of up to date. Sorry about this. I have a little time before I have to rush off again - so:

Vitek
Hypersomnia
Sprimal
Trentonlf
bookwyrm
gogtrial
Joe

um...
flubbucket ;p

Vitek - ToDay he makes me laugh and like him very much. It seems like a long time since he did the things that make we wary. He's trent's top town read. Nobody else suspects him in the slightest. vote vitek
Hypersomnia - I'm starting to like the idea of HypersomniacLive + trentonlf scum team. It would mean me being wrong about Vitek, but maybe I'm prepared to accept the possibility that I'm wrong.
Sprimal - If there's a serial killer it's him. Is he scum? Who's scumbuddy would he be? Bookwyrm? Has somebody mentioned that already? I think bookwyrm just said it as if to suggest "Me, work with him? Piffle!"... Yeah the very bottom of post 889. OH I guess he's saying "we both got scene lynched so we can't possibly be scene's buddies." Which I don't like...
trentonlf - There's a couple of things still about him that make me unsure. But none of the rest of you seem interested in him. Well, no that's not true. Vitek proposes he's buddies with HSL (I think) which HSL replies "Aha, I was trying to discover if he was scum!" and trent responds "I am the starless void". Or words to that effect.
bookwyrm - who? Oh him, is he playing? He's active today, he seemed concerned about the lovers claim, and the most desirous to get to the bottom of it. Would I expect a mafia to be interested too? Maybe...
gogtrial - scum to be sure!!
Joe - Joejoejoe
flubbucket - Oh let's just lynch him for the fun of it?

No-one else has been remotely interested in vitek's claim proposal... Maybe it's a trap? I don't see how a claim could harm town too much at this point in the game, unless there's a SOOPER twist that no-one could have ever expected. If you're not in favour of mass claim, raise your hands.

Sorry-not-sorry for the huge amount of interpolation ^ (Lovers funnies - gogtrial wondered why I was breadcrumbing cop-claim: "interpolated". Pretty good eh? I wish I'd thought of that.)

Time's running out. I might get a chance to follow-up later tonight, if not I'll have some time tomorrow night too, but I'm working saturday D8< so even the weekend is not going to give me a proper chance to get some shit done. I've mentioned asking for a replacement, but it seems a shame after we've come all this way...

Joe x
Just a very quick check in to let you all know that I'm too tired and drained after what I experienced today, so totally not in the right state of mind for forum mafia tonight, not even for a quick skim.

After a hopefully good night's sleep, I'll be up to getting back into the game tomorrow afternoon/evening.
Sorry, for some reason I am dead tired today.
I think I may be coming down with some illness.
I feel weak, achy, my head hurts and have a slightly sore throat.
/medical report off


@trent; Do you think your current favourites for mafia do make sense as team? Scene, SPF and Bookwyrm?


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Bookwyrm627: Trent, Vitek, and Flub: shall we play Old Maid or Crazy Eights or something?
I know neither of them. :-/
I couldn't even handle tag or hopscotch so I was never allowed to play anytthing else that could be more complicated.

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Bookwyrm627: We could just throw rocks at Vitek until he votes, I guess.
Yay.

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ZFR: New rule: throwing rocks is not allowed.
Awww.

Spoilsport.

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ZFR: Crap. Quicktopic is broken hete too.
My quicktopic seems to work alright.



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JoeSapphire: My role name is Sergiu Costava and I'm Town Sibling with gogtrial. We have a day chat, I know gogtrial is town, and because we share tent and will protect one another to the death, I die if he gets lynched or nightkilled, and vice-versa. We win if there’s no more anti-town players.
So it’s called siblings but it’s the role I know as lovers.
Hmmmm, Town Siblings...

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JoeSapphire: Vitek /847
gogtrial and joe didn’t vote scene d2 We were both ready to vote supplementscene, if certain people weren’t so hasty :p
That wasn't the point. ;-)

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JoeSapphire: Vitek - ToDay he makes me laugh and like him very much. It seems like a long time since he did the things that make we wary. He's trent's top town read. Nobody else suspects him in the slightest. vote vitek
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Sprimal - If there's a serial killer it's him. Is he scum? Who's scumbuddy would he be? Bookwyrm? Has somebody mentioned that already? I think bookwyrm just said it as if to suggest "Me, work with him? Piffle!"... Yeah the very bottom of post 889. OH I guess he's saying "we both got scene lynched so we can't possibly be scene's buddies." Which I don't like...
Biggest point against SPF being anyone scumbuddy is how scene tried to redirect his lynch to him while he was simple goon. So for me it is not really issue of SPF unable to be buddy with some living one, more like with scene.

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JoeSapphire: No-one else has been remotely interested in vitek's claim proposal... Maybe it's a trap? I don't see how a claim could harm town too much at this point in the game, unless there's a SOOPER twist that no-one could have ever expected. If you're not in favour of mass claim, raise your hands.
As someone has pointed out, mafia has RB for sure, I forgot about that and so they could block if there is someone with role.
The other side of it is that if there was another role, we would know for sure there is no SK. Only of course, if you and trial are not mafia. If you were, there could be no other role and SK.



I am still trying to figure out who could be buddy with whom but I still need to do more reading. Right now I think I would be most inclined to lynch HSL, then Wyyrm, followed by trent. Then I suppose SPF and it ends with Joe but aat the moment I feel like buying the lovesons claim so he is far behind others.
Hey all; back after a long and exhausting but rewarding day. Have another one to go tomorrow. From a very quick skim there doesn't seem anything immediate for me to tackle, so I'm just gonna go catch up with some non-mafia things, and then to an early-ish bed.

@Joe: Glad you found some internet access!
@HSL: Don't worry about it - take your time; we'll still be here tomorrow.
Vote count:

HSL - 2: SPF, bookwyrm,
bookwyrm -1: trent
vitek -1: Joe

Not voting - 4: gogtrial, HSL, Vitek, flub

8 players. Takes 5 to lynch.
Ok. Quicktopic is fine here. Was broken at aiport wifi.

The usual 403 forbiddeb. If it's an antispam measure they should at least allow you to enter 5heir main page.

Anyway it works fine here n9w.

Thanks for vote doubt mchack. Will be back on laptop tomorrow.
Post edited October 05, 2018 by ZFR
Huh. I like the poem as verification of day chat. Of course, my tinfoil hat just came over to ask me why the twist couldn't just be "Mafia has day chat". I told my hat that it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense with how scene played. My less foiled hat indicated that maybe day chat was set to make up for the lovers part.

Suggestion for verification of Day Chat:
-The lovers privately select a long-ish poem.
-Lovers will not identify the poem in the game thread at first.
-Lovers divide up the poem into multiple short passages. Each one takes alternating chunks. Chunks should be of variable length.
-They cross post with the divided passages. Both lovers have the poem name and source in their post.
-Neither lover will repeat any section of the poem that is provided by their partner.

Example:
Lovers select Poem X, which is 10 lines long.
Lover A posts lines 1, 3, 4, 7, 8, and the first half of 10. Lover A also posts the poem name and a source for the original.
Lover B posts lines 2, 5, 6, 9, and the second half of line 10. Lover B also posts the poem name and a source for the original.
Posts are done at the same time. One or two of the rest of us should be present as witnesses to the time stamp.
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JoeSapphire: Vitek - ToDay he makes me laugh and like him very much. It seems like a long time since he did the things that make we wary. He's trent's top town read. Nobody else suspects him in the slightest. vote vitek
Hypersomnia - I'm starting to like the idea of HypersomniacLive + trentonlf scum team. It would mean me being wrong about Vitek, but maybe I'm prepared to accept the possibility that I'm wrong.
I'm trying to understand your vote on Vitek, it sounds like you are saying no one really suspects him but you are going to vote him because he made you feel wary at some point that wasn't recent? Is that accurate?



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Vitek: Sorry, for some reason I am dead tired today.
I think I may be coming down with some illness.
I feel weak, achy, my head hurts and have a slightly sore throat.
/medical report off


@trent; Do you think your current favourites for mafia do make sense as team? Scene, SPF and Bookwyrm?
I hope you get to feeling better, drink lots of fluids (not alcohol!) and get plenty of rest.

When it comes to scene anyone could be on a team with him, he was all over the place. The only person that might get some leeway is SPF simply because scene was so quick to jump on his wagon at the end of Day 1. As for SPF and bookwyrm being on a team together I see that as possible. Are you seeing something to indicate they would not be?




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HypersomniacLive: Just a very quick check in to let you all know that I'm too tired and drained after what I experienced today, so totally not in the right state of mind for forum mafia tonight, not even for a quick skim.

After a hopefully good night's sleep, I'll be up to getting back into the game tomorrow afternoon/evening.
If you need to talk don't hesitate to message me. Get some rest and clear your mind.


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Bookwyrm627: Huh. I like the poem as verification of day chat. Of course, my tinfoil hat just came over to ask me why the twist couldn't just be "Mafia has day chat". I told my hat that it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense with how scene played. My less foiled hat indicated that maybe day chat was set to make up for the lovers part.

Suggestion for verification of Day Chat:
-The lovers privately select a long-ish poem.
-Lovers will not identify the poem in the game thread at first.
-Lovers divide up the poem into multiple short passages. Each one takes alternating chunks. Chunks should be of variable length.
-They cross post with the divided passages. Both lovers have the poem name and source in their post.
-Neither lover will repeat any section of the poem that is provided by their partner.

Example:
Lovers select Poem X, which is 10 lines long.
Lover A posts lines 1, 3, 4, 7, 8, and the first half of 10. Lover A also posts the poem name and a source for the original.
Lover B posts lines 2, 5, 6, 9, and the second half of line 10. Lover B also posts the poem name and a source for the original.
Posts are done at the same time. One or two of the rest of us should be present as witnesses to the time stamp.
They would for sure have to post at the same time or it would not work, and that would verify that they have Day chat. I also agree with your tin foil hat that the way scene played makes a mafia Day chat seem improbable. Does it make you sad that y'all don't have a Day chat?
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JoeSapphire: .............
flubbucket - Oh let's just lynch him for the fun of it?

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I can support this action.