Unless I'm mistaken it seems like poppy is in lead position for prettiest princess title. Her post on setup seemed pretty premature to me given the amount of information we've got. Although I didn't get the feeling that she was role fishing through that post as lift did. Don't think I'll be voting her just now.

Nice to see you playing dedo-senpai, I'll do my best and make you proud. :)

I think you misunderstood. I wasn't saying his play was terrible, but that it could be terrible and it'd still be worth having him around.
:P

I think that's a bit of a stretch. No one made me overanalyse Vitek's attack choices, and if I hadn't been pressed into revealing my observations too early it probably would have just petered out.

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Seriously guys? You read that as a claim?

Sucks when a town player is mod confirmed, eh? Eh?


Did I say his play's terrible? I only questioned the term "active player" and flubbucket linked together.

flubbucket's not the type to make ten posts per day (note: not Day) filled with comments and analysis of every little thing that's been said.

Do you consider this to be terrible play?



Is this a sign of some sort of early senility?



Up until this bit, it sounded like something about supplementscene bothered you. But here you bring up the ZFR example (he was town), so I'm not sure where your leaning is.


I'd like to hear his thought process on these as well.


Define actual vote during RVS.



I'm two unlimited rollblocking vigilante cop-doctors... oops.

Maybe it does for you?

Nope, and neither did I. I said even if his play is terrible. As in: In a hypothetical scenario where flub's play is terrible, his confirmed status makes him good to have around regardless. You're the second person to have misunderstood me so I must not have been very clear.

I don't know what you're implying but my hip hurts.

So you consider RVS votes serious ones, your own included, just not as serious as those to follow?


Which other games?


Based on what data on my play during RVS?


That's also a very convenient way to throw shade on others without providing any sort of anything that could be even remotely seen as evidence.


But you did want to distract from that, just not too much?


This sounds like you've observed Lifthrasil doing the same thing in at least one other game, so much that you're convinced it's a scum-tell. I'd appreciate it if you'd share with the rest of us where you've seen the above mentioned pattern. And no, saying that it's not your style to dig up examples from other games won't cut it.



Nah, the extra couple of rounds of bourbon I got from him left me with the utmost respect for him as a member of our community; he is a true Innocent Child. So much respect, in fact, that I helped him heal his bruises, and clean all the blood from that brutal beating he took unjustly.

But nice dodge.


I left the second part of your comment out for a reason, and it's not because I didn't understand you on second read. It's because my second question to you, which you left out from your quote, along with the context, is more general, hence I'd still like you to answer it.


Also, could I have a bump? Have a few more things, and don't want to make this post too much of a wall of text.

bump.
Votecount incoming

Thanks, mod.


Where does all this bulletproof talk fit in with the setup we have?


This is the second time you bring this up now. What exactly are you doubting about the mod confirmation, and why?


Could you point me to my early aggression towards PoppyAppletree?


Could you elaborate on this?


Last game, Sage103082 being sick in bed was not a satisfactory explanation for you, yet PoppyAppletree's situation leading to her absence is completely understandable... Interesting turn.


On a side note, would it be possible for you to try and quote only the parts of posts you're actually replying to/commenting on?



I get that every now and then. It helps to limp, especially if it's the right one.

When you see any votecount from me, please take a second to check that your name is shown voting for the correct person.

Vote count:

Poppy - 3: Lifthrasil, Dessimu, trentonlf
flub - 1: Bookwyrm
Bookwyrm - 1: gogtrial
supplementscene - 1: JoeSapphire
trentonlf - 1: SirPrimalform
Lifthrasil - 1: PoppyAppletree
JoeSapphire - 1: HSL
Dessimu - 1: supplementscene

Everyone else - 0
Not voting: everyone else

13 players. Takes 7 to lynch.

Eh, you know me - I question a lot, but conclude slowly. I wasn't leaning at all when pushing, just trying to see what type of reaction I'd get, and yes, overemphasizing newbieness could come from either alignment. Right now I am thinking about leaning, but let's see where this goes first.

Fair enough. Let's strike the word "actual" from the record.
I don't actually recall if you usually participate in RVS with voting. Do you? And was that different the last time you and dedo played together?

A failing which no one will accuse you of, at this point. Do you have any insights to help us move forward?

Same question for Joe when you return from your farm (what is that a euphemism for anyway?)

Nice to see you're consistent. :)

I wouldn't be opposed, but I think it would definitely tell us something. Given HSL's needling method of questioning where he takes a fine-tooth comb to everything, he makes a very effective scum hunter.

That's interesting.

Yes, they're unconnected. The second part is more a response to myself than anyone else, as I continue to think about the setup. I've not played C9++ before, so it's quite interesting to me.

This.

Yes, but not on GOG, sorry.

Yes. I don't think RVS should ever be fully discounted, as for scum they are never truly random, even if a Town player might pick theirs without care. There is always some motivation behind them.

Let's not mince words.

I have absolutely no intention of indulging these questions. I consider them petty and frivolous, and I have no desire to be put on the defensive as it is an inherently losing position. I've modded a game in which you and Lift have been scum, providing insight into how you operate as scum players publicly and privately, and read other games in which you have played. I have a well-documented objection to digging up previous games as evidence, and I will stand by that. If that fails to satisfy you, then I'm afraid you'll just have to deal with it.

My feelings exactly.

I can only assume a misunderstanding about the setup. The only player who could be bulletproof is a Serial Killer, and only if they chose to be (unless ZFR made the assignment himself).

I'd like that too.

For some reason I thought I was on four. Must not be trying hard enough. :D

Zing.

Nope! Didn't answer before as I didn't think it was relevant seeing as it was based on misunderstanding of my post.

There wasn't really much there to dodge and no need to dodge it.

Didn't see this one, I think it may have come in while I was writing. First question: female. Second question: yes. Player in two, mod of two.

I don't think scene is the only one with some doubts about flub's status. I'm 90% sure it's true, but I read "twist" as a bastard element, so it leads me to question the announcement.

The point about HSL's status as a reluctant voter was addressed by gogtrial, but to answer your your question, I mostly wanted to spark conversation and get people thinking about the C9++ setup. I think it's totally fine for those thoughts to be kept quiet at this stage, as long as people are thinking about it.

Oh, and as a follow-up to my previous answer: if it helps, my scum game isn't very strong.