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Posted September 30, 2018
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mchack - 4: Ixam, Bookwyrm, SPF, Joe
Ixam - 3: mchack, gogtrial, HSL
JoeSapphire - 1: flub


Not voting - 2: trent, Vitek

10 players. 6 to lynch

40 mins left
Post edited September 30, 2018 by ZFR
Posted September 30, 2018
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gogtrial34987: masons tend to attract a policy lynch. Plus since we're not certain we're MM, we might've gotten a real mason counterclaim, which isn't helping anyone. (I mean, it stands to reason we're just a variant on MM, but we felt honesty was the best course here.)
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mchack: Why policy lynch? you can confirm each other... How can you not be certain to be MM?
Kill one mason to confirm the other, otherwise mafia might hide behind the claim.
All we know for certain is that we're siblings. That's like the mason role in the setup document, but it isn't the same. Does that mean we're MM, or that we're added to the regular mix? We don't know, ZFR doesn't want to confirm or deny anything.
Our chat is day chat only.
Posted September 30, 2018
Vote Count

mchack - 4: Ixam, Bookwyrm, SPF, Joe
Ixam - 3: mchack, gogtrial, HSL
JoeSapphire - 1: flub


Not voting - 2: trent, Vitek

10 players. 6 to lynch
Posted September 30, 2018
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flubbucket: Only the one where I wait in the backyard for her to go to work and then I break into her house "just to see how she really lives" and she comes back having forgotten something and I dive under the couch because in dreams the couch is three feet off the floor and she looks underneath and sees me and I try to apologize passionately but she's already furious and starts hitting me with a golf putter.

Just that one.
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HypersomniacLive: What do you make of the Lovers claim?
It puts us at a point of losing three possible town players in one fell swoop.

Mafia's job is getting easier.
Posted September 30, 2018
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HypersomniacLive: Regarding the Lovers claim, I think it's a pretty damn convenient one if they're mafia; it takes them both of the table, and with no Cop we can't verify alignment, and even if we had, one of them would read not guilty. The only thing that makes me go with it for now is gogtrial34987's play, though we've never seen him as scum, so have no baseline there.
hmm, I think anyone still alive can sort them out tomorrow. If they spoke true, they have a very small chance to survive the night anyway, I wouldn't dare lynching them on a whim.
Posted September 30, 2018
Joe, why did you say you'd be willing to lynch gogtrial few days ago and today told HSL you weren't rallying for his lynch because nobody seemed interested?
Posted September 30, 2018
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HypersomniacLive: If you'd be OK, vote?



More importantly, where's Vitek?


I didn't like Ixamyakxim's post #698 one bit, plus the other things I mentioned from before. The only issue here is that he's not around to defend himself/claim/etc.


Regarding the Lovers claim, I think it's a pretty damn convenient one if they're mafia; it takes them both of the table, and with no Cop we can't verify alignment, and even if we had, one of them would read not guilty. The only thing that makes me go with it for now is gogtrial34987's play, though we've never seen him as scum, so have no baseline there.


Vote Ixamyakxim
Voting!


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mchack: great. then do go for ixam. I do think both Joe and me will be bad lynches for town but ixam can't very well be that bad. At worst we'll hit a vanilla at best we hit scum. I think scum. Also you can re-read him real quick. real quick.
There's no need, I did his ISO already. The reason I said to Vitek earlier that I would consider Ixam as another option is from his post 655, his comment at the end about it being easy for scum to push a wagon onto him in the 11th hour didn't sit right with me.

Vote Ixam
Posted September 30, 2018
Vote Count

mchack - 4: Ixam, Bookwyrm, SPF, Joe
Ixam - 4: mchack, gogtrial, HSL, trent
JoeSapphire - 1: flub


Not voting - 1: Vitek

10 players. 6 to lynch

Half an hour left
Posted September 30, 2018
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gogtrial34987: I find the scene+HSL+Joe concept intriguing as well. I think I recall both Joe pushing on HSL, as HSL pushing on Joe, but no real interactions. (Reread fodder.)
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gogtrial34987: I guess that means I'm back at Ixam, HSL (+ Joe?) and mchack as the primary people to look at. I don't know how to go about analyzing Ixam, I like mchack's answers, and I'm not at all convinced about either HSL or Joe.
Why even mention your mason as possibility in these instances?
Posted September 30, 2018
gogtrial's post #206 asks Joe "Is this your first time as scum?"

post #456 asks Joe "Your interests feel somewhat... opaque to me."

post #642 states " I like mchack's answers, and I'm not at all convinced about either HSL or Joe. "


I'm not buying it. Not lovers.
Posted September 30, 2018
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flubbucket: It puts us at a point of losing three possible town players in one fell swoop.

Mafia's job is getting easier.
Do you believe it or not? If you do, why are you still voting JoeSapphire?



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mchack: hmm, I think anyone still alive can sort them out tomorrow. If they spoke true, they have a very small chance to survive the night anyway, I wouldn't dare lynching them on a whim.
I'm not advocating for their immediate lynch, just pointing out that it could well be fake, and that we don't have any way to confirm or debunk it other than their death.



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Vitek: Joe, why did you say you'd be willing to lynch gogtrial few days ago and today told HSL you weren't rallying for his lynch because nobody seemed interested?
That's one of the things that bother me with this claim, but JoeSappire is gone, so you're not going to get an answer.
Posted September 30, 2018
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Vitek: Joe, why did you say you'd be willing to lynch gogtrial few days ago and today told HSL you weren't rallying for his lynch because nobody seemed interested?
He doesn't have computer access anymore (see his last post above), but that's just basic distancing to prevent scum from seeing us as masons. (I posted similar things about him.)

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Vitek: @gogtrial and Joe; Did you leave any breadcrumbs?
Good question! Joe posted very early on about his connection with me: #234. I berated him about it at the time, calling it too risky. I'm rather glad about it now.

@mchack, same question to you. Did you breadcrumb your doctorness?
Posted September 30, 2018
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flubbucket: gogtrial's post #206 asks Joe "Is this your first time as scum?"

post #456 asks Joe "Your interests feel somewhat... opaque to me."

post #642 states " I like mchack's answers, and I'm not at all convinced about either HSL or Joe. "

I'm not buying it. Not lovers.
ok fair enough. I think it's only distancing to be hiding from scum looking out for masons. But anyway the clock is ticking. would you and vitek please hammer ixam before gogtrial goes back over to my train and I am the only viable lynch? that would be the worst possible outcome of today.
pretty please?

@gogtrial. nope no breadcrumbs. I never got the hang of those and so I don't even try, so as not to risk exposing myself.
Posted September 30, 2018
Thanks.

You are not completely off the table but I am sucker for claims and think I buy it even this time.

Shame on you, Joe, for going away, now I have to lynch missing Ix.

It's going to be Bookwyrm anyway.
Posted September 30, 2018
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flubbucket: gogtrial's post #206 asks Joe "Is this your first time as scum?"

post #456 asks Joe "Your interests feel somewhat... opaque to me."

post #642 states " I like mchack's answers, and I'm not at all convinced about either HSL or Joe. "


I'm not buying it. Not lovers.
What about those specific posts has you not buying it?



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gogtrial34987: [...] Good question! Joe posted very early on about his connection with me: #234. I berated him about it at the time, calling it too risky. I'm rather glad about it now. [...]
I'm not sure I'd call that distinct enough to be a breadcrumb.
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