Listen Einstein if I wanted to cut the day short I could simply hammer myself. How's that for blowing up your theory? What do you actually disagree with in what I stated. It all makes sense and is perfectly logical.

Yes I am pretty sure I'm going down and town will rue that. But will it give info on others?? Was Scene's likely candidates Scum or not, I will be interested to find on as the game progresses.

I'll be blunt.

Posts #405 & 406 were within minutes of Start of Day. Of course I can't prove that now since the posts are listed as "yesterday."

They're by two different players.

Typed this a while ago but had to wait 10 minutes and got distracted.

I can't ask you questions about the game via PM while we're both still in the game. If you get modkilled and it turns out you were telling the truth, it will only be what should have happened yesterday catching up on you. I'll feel bad but I won't feel guilty.

A majority is required to lynch, that is to say more than half of the players.

When there were 13 players, half was 6.5 so 7 votes required to lynch. Today we still need 7 votes to lynch because half of 12 is 6 and we need more than half.
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New post.

Yes, that was indeed meant to be hop but I must have misremembered. My point still stands though. Let me re-ask the question then.

Why didn't you join scene's wagon? Given that he'd seemingly posted his PM, he was a dead man walking. He was either about to be modkilled, or should have been lynched for lying so what good does stalling the wagon do?

What you just said is the sort of thing that sounds like he's your buddy. If it sounds like he wants to end the day early... why does that make you want to end the day early?

Can confirm. I think my post was about 15 minutes after daybreak?

Heh. I'm not so mean so as no to answer questions that are not bolded. It's just that I didn't have time to properly post here.

The answer is: I'll keep it in mind, but no guarantees. At this time, the end of day is Wednesday afternoon +/- few hours anyway. I'll give exact time Wednesday morning. Anyway, all of you should remember that you don't have to wait till the last second to make a lynch

Indeed I am

Right well as I'm almost certainly lynched now. And because I won't be able to perform my surgery in the night tonight. I will state that I protected yourself. Not that you deserve it. ZFR stated (paraphrasing this time) went into your tent to offer my services but it wasn't necessary as you were perfectly well. Why we're sleeping in tents I do not know.

I think that kind of proves me as Town to anyone with a role because they will also know we're going in and out of tents

You could lynch 1 of them instead of me :) Although if they have roles like me I know I got an alert and a PM before the thread re-opened. ZFR also stated 48 hours and it was about that. I know I was F5ing hoping it would be a short night like it was in Joe's game. Why does it take 48 hours for a few PMs?

But if they did get PMs and I survive I will protect one of them. See how a doctor is a useful thing to have around now guys?

Ahh okay all makes sense. I have played poorly to be fair, it's my fault for letting the side down.

I'm not sure ZFR I think you wanting to end the day early looks very suspicious

VOTES ZFR

+/- few hours means deadline (Wednesday afternoon) +/- few hours. I'll give exact deadline Wednesday morning.

Edited previous post to make clear.

No Qs via PM. That's instant modkill.

Rule 7.

When you see a vote count from me, please take a second to check that your name is showing next to the correct player.

Vote count:

supplementscene - 6: mchack, trentonlf, Lifthrasil, SirPrimalform, xyakim, flub
Lift - 1: supplementscene

Everyone else: 0
Not voting: everyone else

12 players. 7 needed for lynch.

I think you've missed an x in there somewhere. This looks too easy.

Are you ignoring me on purpose?

Thanks for the praise and all that (++scumpoint for HSL), but I'm at a loss here. I've only ever been town, so my knowledge of scum tactics and mindset is apparently too limited. Please enlighten me which other factors could've been at play. Bonus points if you slip and admit to which of those factors was at play in this particular instance. :P

(I really hope you won't now go and mention something obvious that'll make me feel stupid for overlooking it.)

Scene's argument here does make sense to me.
He (claims to have) protected someone. That someone can't be protected by him again on N2. So if scum knows who that someone is, they can target that person with much less risk of the kill not going through. Yes, there's the possibility that the person who he (claims to have) protected on N1 was scum, but the chance of that is still relatively low, so that doesn't invalidate scene's argument.

Of course, his use of the phrasing "town kill" and "that Townee" is suspect, but your focus was (imho erroneously) on him seemingly *knowing* who was town, rather than on the (claimed) 'guarantee' of a successful kill.

To quote HSL: "Heh".
Thank you for saving me from at least this reread.
Then let me ask you this: Which of the current discussions going on, between which other players, do you feel would be beneficial to see 'completed' before EoD? And are there any conversation threads that strike you as wild goose chases or otherwise less interesting?

The part that makes no sense is he is not just saying someone but a Townie, other than flub who everyone knows is Town who could he have protected that he knows is Town that he doesn’t want to reveal? How could he know someone else is Town? If he’s really the doctor how does he know he didn’t protect scum? He keeps trying to push how super uselful he is and how we can’t do without him, but doesn’t answer questions coherently or is very evasive until a later point when he’s had time to think of an answer.

Not to defend scene, but he has by this point already claimed to have protected flub so I guess that's how he knows he didn't protect scum. Of course I think it's all a big fat lie, but that's what he said.

I'm fairly interested in what HSL was doing EoD1. I asked, but he used a mistake I made in my preceding sentence to avoid answering the important question and now apparently won't be back today.

FYI: I am aware of Day 2 start, and it looks like I'm about 80 posts behind right now. I don't yet have time to do any reading, I'm afraid, bu I'm working on getting at least some of it done tonight.

That doesn't even make sense!

Now you're not only breaking the rules yourself, but are asking other players to do that too. Asking other players stuff about the game via PM is forbidden. Read the rules.

Assuming that scum can read the rules, they know that you can't self-protect. It's in the setup. Read the rules!

If only there was a way to avoid such misconceptions! Oh, wait! There is: read the rules!

Not necessarily alignment indicative. Interesting and worth do preserve for posterity, sure. But nothing damning on it's own. Townies can sit around pressing F5 or just happen to see the Day-start. And scum can hold back to not seem over-eager. When I was scum I did wait a bit before posting. To not reveal that I knew exactly when the Day would start. ... I guess that's common sense for scum, but is of course subject to WIFOM.

No, that "proves" that you did SOMETHING at Night. Like killing someone or roleblocking someone or anything else that made you go into someone's tent. That doesn't prove you town.


@Ixamyakxim: I would be very interested in a further explanation on the questions you have been asked:
- Why did you assume that the second NK, which you thought was assured, was specifically role-blocked?
- Why were you so sure that no Masons exist in this game? They are part of the setup after all.


@Topic Scene-Vitek scumbuddies? ... No, Vitek didn't do anything specific that contradicts the scumbuddies theory. But he didn't do anything to confirm it either. And after the start of D1, Scene also stopped to appear as a buddy to Vitek. Could be that my theory at the start of D1 was wrong. Or it could be that Scene started distancing and the buddying at the start of D1 was just buddying up to a towny. In any case, since Scene has started to expose himself so drastically, everyone is suspecting him. Scum will have no choice but to suspect him too and bus him - so it's no wonder that no further ties between Scene and anyone became apparent.


Bookwyrm! Please re-join the game!

prepostedit: oops, I see you just did.