supplementscene: VOTE POPPY - I know I'm Town 100%. I don't know if she is so it's a better to vote on that wagon and she seems as best first day lynch as anyone.
PoppyAppletree: Honestly, that's pretty weak. By my estimation, only one player on my wagon was scum before your vote. If you're Town, then you're pushing that perilously close to an early lynch; I wouldn't expect another two scum buddies to pile in, but it would only take one more Town player and one of the scum to lynch me and end today's discussion. Especially since we've been having a fairly slow weekend with several players yet to contribute meaningfully and there are
four days remaining on the clock, I really don't think that pushing a lynch to its conclusion favours Town. This is a bad move, and I would strongly encourage you to reconsider.
(Unrelated, the Serial Killer is a third party anti-Town role, but a Mafia role. They are the only possible bulletproof.)
How would you know who was Scum on your wagon or not? Only Scum know scum. Perhaps you feel people who have analysed you and got a Scummy feel from your posts are Scum. But they could simply be Town thinking you are Scum. I understand you probably feel victimised and there will Scum players on either your or my wagon.
That would bring it to 5. It needs 7 for the hammer to drop and now you're back down to 4. I was happy to choose between you, Lift or Desimu. But no one are on the other 2 Wagons other than yourself.
No, there were 4 people on your Wagon prior to my vote:
Poppy - 4: Lifthrasil, Dessimu, trentonlf, flubbucket
trentonlf: Unvote PoppyAppletree I really like this statement from her “
It doesn't help Town to give up, though, so I'm going to take a breather, then come back later on and see what I can pick out.” I give big town points for this.
I don’t like this statement though from supplementscene “VOTE POPPY - I know I'm Town 100%. I don't know if she is so it's a better to vote on that wagon and she seems as best first day lynch as anyone.”
This is a vote of convenience with a LAMIST thrown in. He’s been on my radar with several of his posts, and I had him as my second choice for scum. His vote on Poppy doesn’t sit right with me. My gut is telling me I have it wrong on Poppy and that Supplementscene is scum.
Vote Supplementscene This doesn't seem entirely logical. If Poppy was Scum wouldn't it be a LAMIST thing to say? You knock my analysis because it's 'convinence' when I have already given an analysis of her play and pointed out aspects that are either Scummy or unfortunate.
I have no idea who Scum is and we rarely get Scum in Day 1. Scum are probably one or two of the lurking Joe, Bookworm and Dedo rather than the vocal minority. (Okay @Joe, you may not be lurking. You maybe genuinely on a farm but this would be a good excuse for Scum to let Town rip themselves apart so you can pick up the pieces.)
So in that sense voting for another wagon over the only wagon I know that's Town is logical.
supplementscene: The bulletproof talk comes from Poppy saying "I'm sure I'll live" in post 45 [...]
HypersomniacLive: Except that my question to you was where it fits in with the setup we have, not where it comes from.
I was about to ask you what gogtrial34987 already did, namely if you had read the C9++ setup on the mafia wiki page that the mod linked to in the OP, but I just saw that you hadn't at the time. If the reason was that you couldn't open the page, don't you think it'd have been prudent to let us know and ask us to tell you what the setup is instead of talking and making arguments without having the full picture?
supplementscene: [...] HSL - has a town feel. Asked reasonable questions and . Supposedly great at faking town according to Poppy. [...]
HypersomniacLive: You seem to have left the first sentence incomplete. Would you like to amend that?
supplementscene: [...] so reply to all points but don't always quote each post. [...]
HypersomniacLive: Says the guy who thinks others are scummy when they address him without quoting him...
supplementscene: [...] Or they maybe are 2 Townees bickering and tunneling. The latter I am learning I need to step away from somewhat. [...]
VOTE POPPY - I know I'm Town 100%. I don't know if she is so it's a better to vote on that wagon and she seems as best first day lynch as anyone.
HypersomniacLive: You're leaning the Lifthrasil/PoppyAppletree confrontation being v/v, and vote her in the same post?
supplementscene: [...] A thorough analysis of each player. [...]
HypersomniacLive: You mean like this?
supplementscene: [...] Trent - has jumped on the Poppy wagon and also read her as scummy. [...]
HypersomniacLive: Where's your analysis, or even read, here?
I've noticed that you're often skipping questions, and need be asked again, or seem not to carefully read what others are asking you or replying to you, and I wonder - is this some sort of strategy, some sort of laziness, or do you perhaps have a condition that interferes with your reading and/or attention focus ability?
Please don't take the last part of my question the wrong way; there's no ill-intent behind it, I'm honestly trying to figure out if there's something out_of_game causing this all.
Why does this condescending post make me feel like a schoolboy being bollocked by a teacher? Hmm could condescision be a way to steer my play in the future? We will see.
You're asking me if it's strategy or my normal play. Well why don't you know? You read the last game enough to pick out 2 instances of my play so you should be able to make your own judgement. I'm guessing you were an observer in that game, this is my other game in Secret Hitler:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/secret_hitler_1_legend_of_the_cows/page1 If you'd prefer to ask fellow players their comparison of my playing style. I've played twice with Lift, once with Trent, once with Dedo and once with Bookwyrm (very shortly though).
RE: HSL - I think I was going to write '..and hasn't done anything suspicious'. But Poppy pointing out you rarely vote interesting is a twist and I only saw that on a re-read.
I thought it was clear, I'm unsure whether Lifthrasil/PoppyAppletree confrontation is TT or FT. I'm only sure it's not FF as I don't think that would make sense.
Trent I'm not too sure on at the moment. I thought his initial analysis seemed logical. But now I'm wondering if Poppy and Trent could be Scumbuddies. Create distance by voting for her only to switch on a townee before the deadline.