Special thanks to adaliabooks for helping me with the modding.
Special thanks to the subs.
Thanks to everyone for playing, it's been fun to host.
I think gogtrial is undoubtedly the man of the match here. He did an excellent job. I thought they lost for sure when Joe was put at L-1. trent was second best; if it wasn't for the twist, I think he'd have helped mafia win for sure.
Vitek: So they were they own faction but knew who is mafia and one of them was basically mole in mafia team.
Doesn't that make mafia quite underpowered?
Yes, I think mafia got the short end of the stick in this game. Which is really a shame because trent did an excellent job. If only he wan't so trusting.
ZFR: They were actually vanilla townie and mafia godfather, but made tragic lovers,
with their abilities to win separately removed. They win together, or lose.
Vitek: So they were not.
For all purposes they were just neutrals (tragic lovers) who investigated both as town, one was infiltrated into mafia and both could read mafia chat.
Pretty much yes. But how else are Tragic Lovers to be set-up? Keeping their ability to win separately makes it way too easy for the town lover to dump his partner after the other mafia are killed. Removing their ability to win separately turns them into a neutral faction as you just saw.
My other thoughts on the set-up:
_I rerolled on SK because I thought keeping 4 factions would be too much. Maybe I should have kept him. Incidentally, the first roll was CCCBTTT, which included an SK, so was rerolled.
_Should godfather have been excluded from the Lover pool?
_I excluded Vig (if any) from the town lover pool, as well as town-roleblocker (if any) after reading adalia's opinion (too easy to block NKs in that case) and Masons (so as not to make it too bastardy). I probably would have excluded 1-shot versions of V and B too. None of this was an issue anyway.