I want to hear who it is. I want to hear that person confirm it.
I want to judge how trustworthy they are and based on that I want to decide what to do with you.

By PoE, It's not me, yog or trent. It shouldn't be deadbot/adalia and Lift (ZFR's main suspects).
That leaves:
SPF, flub, Sage, supplement, mchack or Bookwyrm.
Out of those mchack, SPF and supplement are voting him so either they are not as convinced and willing to die or not them.
That would leave flub, Sage (who ZFR suddenly mentioned as suspect) and Bookwyrm.

Is any of you willing to come forth and confirm?


Is that where you got flub, trent.

I looked at Book and he seemed to be backing ZFR most of the time during D1.

Bookwyrm would make sense, for the same reason that he makes sense as a scum buddy.

But yogs' post seems like him trying to shut ZFR up before he shares too much information that he can't confirm properly... again as if they are buddies.

And I do agree with Lift that at least if ZFR isn't lynched he might be protected, if he outs his partner then scum can shoot either of them and any prospective protective role has to guess who to target. Plus revealing his partners alignment isn't typical behaviour for a lovers role.

Me yelling at him to explain himself is shutting him up? OK BRAH.

This is the problem with a game where most players don't show up for deadline. We need flub/wyrm here to confirm or deny; we need ZFR back to explain himself. We need time to pick an alternative if the Lovers claim seems legit (and if it's confirmed by the other lover, how could it not be, unless it's two mafia outing themselves, which would be stupid beyond repair), and we need participants here to do that.

Which is also the trouble with requiring majority to lynch.

Sounds like coaching to me...

Or maybe a couple years of training at MU, where sharing details of your PM is grounds for immediate, no-questions-asked modkill.

This is done to prevent all the myriad of problems we've had on this site (some of them admittedly inflicted by me) over the years breaking games from comparing PMs.

So you are leaning town or mafia on ZFR?

You are sending mixed signals here.
Talking about him getting protection if not lynched as he was confirmed town and mentioning Bookwyrm as possible scumbuddy.

Except I'm not asking him to compare PMs, I'm asking him to claim his role.
I don't know about you, but I have no typical mafia role to claim, only a Pokemon.

Still leaning scum, but covering all the bases. If we don't lynch him (presumably because we believe he is town) it is better not to know who his partner is. If we don't lynch him and he is scum after all then it's a moot point.

I'm willing to take the risk and lynch him. It wouldn't be the first time we lynched lovers D1 (did so in my very first game actually) and it's a blow but not insurmountable.
But given Joe's exhaustive list ZFR may well have found a role on it that would cover him and make lynching him risky if he is scum. I think it's a cover and we've found our scum (and both is buddies if I'm right).

Oh crap. I did not think this through. Hold on please.

(Joe, if you come back, please don't end abruptly. Give me 15 mins).

10 minutes to go...

Dude, I'm typing.

8 minutes! Argh!

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_54_pokemon_death_tournament/post270

I took that as him saying flub was Town, only way he knows that is if flub’s his Lover

:'<

Sorry.

I'm under time pressure here.