to be clear Ix - you're claiming to be a town vanilla?

They're in that post you above - I THINK (assuming dedo is town) there was scum in early on him, and the second scum was going to come in late to hammer.

When dedo stalled and I came up as a second option, I think the SECOND scum that would have hammered / near hammered dedo came in early on me and someone in on dedo early would be the one to hammer me.

This is why a vote or two on RWarehall made me curious, and why I wanted to see you guys push further on him (to see if anyone jumps off when Warehall nears lynch). Given that the day is nearing a close, I'm not sure you'll get a chance to do this though.

And yes Robb to be clear, vanilla townie here. As you all know, if I weren't, this would be the point I'd be screaming to lynch all townies and run wild over the Zone, turning it into a scum haven LOL ;)

Interesting.

May I ask why? Do you buy his claim? (or lack of)
Or do you just think with further reading and evidence that he may not be scum?

I'm particularly interested as I'm kind of leaning that way myself, but my concern is that Night might be falling any minute now and we may have no lynch... which I think at this point isn't going to be good for us as it leaves us little to analyse tomorrow and one less townie as well.

Love your reading comprehension even more. Does the word "now" mean nothing to you, as in what people are actually complaining of?

Entirely irrelevant. He argued for Kryps affiliation of scum and voted Ix without saying anything about his behavior. He didn't even imply anything. The fact Ix's behavior is "strange" does not justify a random vote when you argue a case against someone. It was pulled out of nowhere only to push a lynch wagon. Which brings me up to my next point: Your argument is entirely faulty. I don't mind your vote. I mind your explanation. It is irrelevant and weakly made. Smells like scumbuddies to me.

This post reeks of desperation. Congratulations! You have solidified your position as my #1 suspect for a very long time.

Irrelevant because it does not line up with your thoughts? Pretty sure you are barking up the wrong tree with RWarehall and dedo, and trying to spin it that anyone who believes RWarehall is not scum is just a scum buddy protecting him reeks of scum trying to plant suspicion.

So far your whole game has been to find fault with everyones reasoning, you seem to be working awfully hard to point the finger at a lot of people. I can honestly say the only two people I'm pretty sure are town right now are RW and dedo. The fact that you think different does not concern me. But, trying to say I'm scum because I think that does because as I said it seems like you are just trying to point the finger at as many people as possible.

I also don't see how moving your vote from one person you think is scum to another you think is scum is a bad move. I guess you would rather have no lynch today? Seems we are headed that direction. How many other people are you going to point out as "scummy" because they don't think like you do.

Pffff, I stopped believing that when you told me you drive fast cars and used to go to parties! D:

@Ddickinson: I'm sorry to hear about your situation. Here's to you getting better and your family getting healthier!

Oh, but I have. I have clearly explained the whole PM looks like a template that only has names and alignments changed. And interesting how you call me one of the scummiest now.

Sorry, what? Confirmed town? Ha. I don't want to say this because it's an egomaniac thing to do, but I am fairly sure you're scum. Your desperation is all over the place.

Definitely agreed here, but that's not my point. my point is why would you argue for the scumminess of one player, unvote that player, vote for someone else just for the heck of it? The 24 hour post in this case is even less justified than in flub's case.

I'm a bit intrigued by this. It's either me not understanding HSL's question, or you avoiding it, because that is not an answer to what he asked.

You are contradicting yourself. Interesting. I will keep this in mind.

Curious why you're so sure RW is town right now. I really have no preconceptions regarding your alignment, so I'm inclined to look at what you'd say as being less biased than others, and I want to know if I might have missed something.

On a side note, if you ARE scum keep doing what you're doing because it's fooling me LOL.

Irrelevant because RWare had absolutely no word on Ix, but had a lot to say about Kryps, yet his actions contradicted his words.

Who said anything about dedo? See, here's why I suspect you of scum. You are doing exactly what you say I am doing. I have nothing on dedo and I didn't even mention him, but interesting enough you try to lie about the fact that I make people think RWare is protecting dedo (what? how did you even come up with this?)

There are a lot of scum and a lot of the reasoning I read was faulty or simply gibberish.

I'll keep this in mind. Interesting. It will help knowing that in the following days when I analyze this.

Oh, but I am not pointing a finger at your for your "thoughts", but because they make no sense. You argued you think RWare was right in his reasoning when a fairly decent amount of folks here see RWare's action as prime scummy. Given that I am one of those people, and the fact you used RWare's 24 hour late reason to justify a vote on Ix, you are one of my suspects. And please, on my suspect list I only have you, RWare, and Bookwyrm. Nobody else at the moment. Please, try and tell me again how I'm attempting to point a finger at as many "as possible."

Because it is a bad move when you justify your vote for someone, unvote that someone, vote for someone else, and come up with a lame reason for the vote switch 24 hours later. Simply following of events.

Trying to accuse me of something? I see you too are pulling straw man around here.

As many as I found faulty in their reasoning. I don't care if people think differently. I care when they ignore pure simply scumminess right in front of them.

Tunnel vision again from Hijack, should not be surprised. Putting words in my mouth too I see as I never said RW was protecting dedo. And I do seem to recall you mentioning to Bookwyrm a theory of dedo being scum and latching onto someone who looks scummy (me), but then again I'm sure you conveniently forgot that.

Am I trying to accuse you of something, no I asked you a question. That is what the question mark is for, unless you want to twist that to mean something else too. And it still stands, I guess you would rather have no lynch today?

All it seems to me is you are again trying to cast doubt and confusion because someone does not see it your way.

Funny you're the one saying this seeing as you never see quite right.

That's your profession, remember? And no, while you didn't say this specifically, you implied a bunch of things, among which you also tried to to frame me for having a case against dedo when I never actually even mentioned his name.

Oh, you're the one who forget the theory trent. If you go back and check (don't worry, even if you don't I will find that post to make a case against you in day 2) you will see that the entire thing was a possibility I outlined. If you haven't noticed, I never voted for dedo, thus I no longer believe that possibility would be the case.

Oh, but you did. You tried to throw some dirt at me and imply quite a bunch of things.

I am not twisting anything, just pointing out the scandalous methods you use to make people look suspicious.

And I guess you would rather see starving children die? Am I right?
I will state it again, so maybe this time you will see: I never advocated this, thus I stand against it.

Yeah, you've said this quite a few times and I already argued that you're the one using dirty moves to make people looks scummy and that I think you're scum. Spare me the nonsense.

The first thing that stands out in all the nonsense you are speaking is "would you rather see starving children die", that is a very offensive question. I asked you a question about the game not about any fucking kids dying. Keep the bullshit questions out of it.

I have used no scandalous methods. If me asking you if you don't want a lynch today implies scandalous in your world then you live in a world that makes no sense. It's a simple question. Yes you voted, but seeing as how the person you voted for I don't see as scum it seems to me you are trying to divide the votes so no lynch happens. Simple as that, no "scandalous" to it. You think he is scum I don't, pretty sure we are not going to come to an agreement on that.

I have not used any dirty moves, but I can see how you might think that since I don't agree with you. It seems anytime someone does not see it your way then they are either stupid or scum. So spare me the nonsense.

And fuck off with the kids comment I really didn't appreciate that.

That was not a personal remark. I already knew the answer to it, or so I hope, right? When you look at my question you are immediately inclined to say no. It was basically a simple method of showing you that your question already had answer. Take it as something similar to: Is the Earth flat?

You focus too much on the question. It is not the question that is primarily scandalous, but the things you were implying, and if you push this question thing around like it was the only thing I was referring to in spite of me showing you otherwise, I'll simply ignore it.

Oh, so I vote for someone I think is scum, but not to you and I am the bad guy for "splitting votes"? I'm sorry, but I don't see you voting for those whom you don't think are scum. Furthermore, like you said you seem to disagree with those who have different opinions. I am for RWare as scum, you are for Ix. Good for you. But in my eyes, you're the one "splitting the votes," if you understand the irony.

Read above. I just stated we came to one. We differ in views, but that doesn't stop me for suspecting you, or you for that matter for suspecting me.

I will state it one last time, so you could understand, and if not, next time it will simply be an instant vote on you as a response. I don't care you disagree, what ground my gears was the lackluster explanation and use of someone else's post as justification.

Fair enough.

Alright. I apologize for that. It was rather extreme, but it was meant only to make a point, not to offend you, so for that I am sorry.

Don't you remember the curse?