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Bookwyrm627: 1) Doesn't look like I'm leading anyone anywhere, at least from where I'm sitting. But that is a minor point.
WIFOM and semantics again? There is a "could" right there in the top line. Any fool to follow this suggestion would only doom town.

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Bookwyrm627: 2) Hijack, you are missing (deliberately?) two different pieces of context from that very post you are so concerned about. 1) "Look for a reason [to vote for someone]" (bolding added here, and I added the assumed end of the sentence), and 2) "Lacking any other leads, selecting a lurker to vote for would be decent play" (bolding added here).
I am not missing anything here. You, on the other hand, are missing a lot. What exactly would voting for a lurker day 1 do when nobody's really sure of anything? Not only that, but it's not even a decent play. The most stereotypical and lame play is that when you have no idea where to being, you suddenly decide to squash the and shift focus from actual conversations to people who may simply be more observant.
And if we're talking semantics, let me remind you that in your context you specifically had "Lynch all lurkers." You see, lynch is not really a minor word around here.

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Bookwyrm627: I didn't say it was an amazingly good idea, and I didn't say to lynch a lurker above all else.
Contextual evidence shows otherwise.

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Bookwyrm627: I said that if one has nothing else to go on, then hey, maybe a lurker is a good target.
And maybe pigs will fly and we will run out of pork meat and decrease our protein income. Really? Are you really trying to appear the innocent proposer here?

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Bookwyrm627: Notice that I didn't vote for anyone that seems to be real quiet recently (Sage, CSVPG), I voted for someone that is being active.
WIFOM. You proposed the idea. You simply had to wait for someone to start your proposal for you to join.

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Bookwyrm627: I have something I think is even better than just selecting a lurker. Someone keeps taking the posts of someone else, misrepresenting them, and then accusing the first player of scum behavior based on the misrepresentation.
WIFOM again. Are you sure it's me misinterpreting your dirty looking posts, or is it just you trying to sell us cheap doughnuts and simply fool everybody? Your own context is against you. I am misinterpreting nothing. You're suspicious. End of the story.

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Bookwyrm627: For comparison purposes, JMich is making dedo squirm by using dedo's actual words.
I don't need a comparison. I will keep my vote where it is.
Can we get a vote count please
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HijacK: But who says it has to be a huge number of people claiming day 1? It was a huge number of people claiming consequently day 2, very soon in the day might I add, after flub and mrk claimed, thus it was a claim-fest.
You are who said it. Let me quote you (again)

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HijacK: It was the day one role claiming fest everybody seems to be complaining about now
Let me bold it for you as well.
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HijacK: It was the day one role claiming fest everybody seems to be complaining about now
I couldn't recall any day one role claim fest, thus my curiosity. Nice to know that day one role claim fest means either 2 people claiming on day 1 or many people claiming on later days, neither of which is exactly what you said. No worries though.

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HijacK: You went from jogging with memory to juggling with words and discussing semantics and challenging definitions.
Yeap. Standard MO for me, haven't you realized it yet?

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HijacK: Question: What is the purpose of this discussion again? I got it at first you were wrong in your memory, but you continued on a path that only seems to be filler to the situation at hand.
Two-fold.
1) Discussion due to boredom and RVS. The part you said it's filler.
2) You continue to assume that your way of playing Mafia is the only way of playing mafia and refuse to consider someone may play the game a different way.

So, tl;dr version, boredom.
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Sage103082: Please ignore the my post above - I posted before I read down.
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dedoporno: In my defense I want to note that I didn't start asking around what people have in their PMs. Wyrm slipped a unintentional] hint
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Sage103082: Bold is my doing.

Did Wyn ever come out and say whether this was intentional or not? If so please point me to the post as I must have missed it.
I remember choosing loyalist over townie to try and fit the flavor more at the time. I didn't plan it as any kind of tell. I don't think I've stated this outright at any point in the thread.
Well this slowed down. Almost makes me think dedo really is scum, or there's at least one scum already on him and the next / other is waiting to drop on closer to hammer time.

2nd or 3rd vote dropped on dedo seems like a suitably innocuous slot for a scum to hide while also advancing the thing along, but I'm not sure I want to poke the big bears by dropping a vote on Krysyn or JMich... yet.
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Ixamyakxim: Well this slowed down. Almost makes me think dedo really is scum, or there's at least one scum already on him and the next / other is waiting to drop on closer to hammer time.

2nd or 3rd vote dropped on dedo seems like a suitably innocuous slot for a scum to hide while also advancing the thing along, but I'm not sure I want to poke the big bears by dropping a vote on Krysyn or JMich... yet.
You placed a vote on dedo because you believe he is scum, but now you are questioning others who have voted for him?
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Ixamyakxim: Well this slowed down. Almost makes me think dedo really is scum, or there's at least one scum already on him and the next / other is waiting to drop on closer to hammer time.

2nd or 3rd vote dropped on dedo seems like a suitably innocuous slot for a scum to hide while also advancing the thing along, but I'm not sure I want to poke the big bears by dropping a vote on Krysyn or JMich... yet.
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trentonlf: You placed a vote on dedo because you believe he is scum, but now you are questioning others who have voted for him?
Thank you.
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trentonlf: You placed a vote on dedo because you believe he is scum, but now you are questioning others who have voted for him?
Like I posted, when votes stall it always makes me think one of two things - either the scum are already on board, or the wagon is on a scum.
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As if the thunderstorm was only a prelude, the ground suddenly trembles and in the direction of Chernobyl, behind the forest, the colour of the lightnings changes to red. You know the signs. Energy is gathering around the Nuclear Power Plant and some time soon it will be released in another deadly Emission.
Like on command the old radio, standing in the derelict building that is your shelter, crackles to life and the voice of some broadcaster announces:
"Attention stalkers! A new emission is building up! Repeat: an the energy readings from the NPP are rising, an Emission will hit soon. Get to the next cover immediately."
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(The clock is now running. You have about two days plus an undisclosed, random time before the Emission strikes and the 'Day' ends)
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Lifthrasil: *************************************************************
As if the thunderstorm was only a prelude, the ground suddenly trembles and in the direction of Chernobyl, behind the forest, the colour of the lightnings changes to red. You know the signs. Energy is gathering around the Nuclear Power Plant and some time soon it will be released in another deadly Emission.
Like on command the old radio, standing in the derelict building that is your shelter, crackles to life and the voice of some broadcaster announces:
"Attention stalkers! A new emission is building up! Repeat: an the energy readings from the NPP are rising, an Emission will hit soon. Get to the next cover immediately."
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(The clock is now running. You have about two days plus an undisclosed, random time before the Emission strikes and the 'Day' ends)
Can we have a vote count please
Vote count

dedoporno - 4 (TwilightBard, JMich, Krypsyn, Ixamyakxim)
Hijack - 2 (CSPVG, Bookwyrm627)
Krypsyn - 2 (Sage103082, RWarehall)
trentonlf - 1 (Robbeasy)
Bookwyrm - 1 (HijacK)


With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.
dedoporno is closest to lynch at L-4
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Sage103082: Please ignore the my post above - I posted before I read down.
Bold is my doing.

Did Wyn ever come out and say whether this was intentional or not? If so please point me to the post as I must have missed it.
He said at one point while it was still not clear what the "thing" is that he slipped.

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Ixamyakxim: Like I posted, when votes stall it always makes me think one of two things - either the scum are already on board, or the wagon is on a scum.
Could it be that some if not all of the scum are going for the easy pick and are already on my wagon? Interesting enough, that vote count actually reminded me that the people I find most scummy are there.


Anyway, I won't be surprised if I end up being the one who is lynched, considering we already have a deadline and I'm halfway through. If things go faster than I can react and I bite it, everything I said still stands, including my scum list.

Right now the scummiest person I see is Ix. Votes being placed for the flimsiest of reasons just for the sake of voting and his following arguments' only goal seems to be to push the most probable lynch to it's end.

vote Ixamyakxim
1. HijacK -> Voted Bookwyrm
2. Sage103082 -> Voted Krypsyn
3. adaliabooks -> No vote (No serious vote)
4. Robbeasy -> Voted trent
5. trentonlf -> No vote (Latest Bookwyrm)
6. CSPVG -> Voted Hijack
7. flubbucket -> No Vote (Latest Dedoporno)
8. Krypsyn -> Voted Dedoporno
9. TwilightBard -> Voted Dedoporno
10. Ixamyakxim -> Voted Dedoporno
11. JMich -> Voted Dedoporno
12. HypersomniacLive -> No vote (No serious vote)
13. Bookwyrm627 -> Voted Hijack
14. dedoporno -> Voted Ixamyakxim
15. RWarehall -> Voted Krypsyn

Adalia, trent, flub, and HSL. You guys could finish off Dedo if you all vote for him, otherwise someone(s) has to jump ship for dedo to be the first lynch. Anyone else will require wagon hopping from players. I assume a no lynch is what would occur if time runs out, since people are considered knocked out during the emission. I've read somewhere that it depends on the mod on whether the most voted candidate gets lynched instead.

So far, I'm not willing to jump on dedo's wagon. There are a few other players that I'll join a wagon for. Make of that what you will.
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Bookwyrm627: Adalia, trent, flub, and HSL. You guys could finish off Dedo if you all vote for him, otherwise someone(s) has to jump ship for dedo to be the first lynch. Anyone else will require wagon hopping from players. I assume a no lynch is what would occur if time runs out, since people are considered knocked out during the emission. I've read somewhere that it depends on the mod on whether the most voted candidate gets lynched instead.

So far, I'm not willing to jump on dedo's wagon. There are a few other players that I'll join a wagon for. Make of that what you will.
Ok I gave my thoughts about all your posts concerning game mechanics and roles and placed my vote on you earlier. Now that I've removed my vote you go and make another odd post. You start your final paragraph in what seems to be "let's lynch dedo" and end it with a "I'm not going to do it though". Makes it seem as if you are trying to push a lynch but keep your hands clean.

Maybe your playstyle just differs that much from mine that we clash, but I can say I'm not overly fond with a lot of your ideas and posts.
While I agree that dedo has been a little off in this game, and I haven't agreed with him at points, I honestly cannot see why on earth we should lynch him today. Would anyone care to reiterate their main arguments against him?

At the moment, I feel it would be best to Vote: Ixamyakxim. I know that this must seem quite scummy to you, what with me just defending dedo and him having recently placed a vote on Ixam. Honestly, I've been sitting on this post for awhile now.

I feel as if is the game we've been having, whilst Ixam's been having a game that looks more like [url=http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/1/17172/1419618-unicorn2.jpg]this.

While Ixam's game does look the more fun of the two, I always feel as if he comes at things from such an odd angle that I never know how to interpret what he's saying. He seems to be off somewhere else, commenting on whatever game he participates in through the hazy, purple-green prism of a far off plane of existence. In short, he makes many of the right noises, they simply never seem to add up to anything sensible.

Firstly, in post 284, he comes in with a vote for Rob (post 284) because Rob said that he wrote his post, or was in the process of writing his post, before Dedo posted his. This somehow makes him scum. The reasoning behind this is so poor, I don't know quite where to begin. Why is,"I refreshed the thread, saw his message, and responded to it" not a valid explanation? For that matter, why would commenting on the fact that someone else had posted make a player scum? Not to mention the accusation of scum buddying. Furthermore, why would scum execute such a move and when did they have time to talk about doing whatever it is was so scummy?

In post 286, he then makes some sort of argument about looking for one scum tell and finding another. A scum tell we've establish above, or at least I think so, that was no scum tell at all. It makes very little sense to me.

Moving on, in post 319 Ixam quotes trent and votes for dedo. He states that he does not like meta-gaming because it is,"not in the spirit of the game." I dislike it when people use the quotes of another player to justify their votes or actions. I always feel as if they're building in some sort of ready to use denial,"No, it wasn't me, X said that, really."

The other thing that troubles me about this is, I do not see what dedo did as overwhelmingly scummy. He saw something another player said, used the information he had available, and made a conclusion based on the evidence he had. Do I agree with his conclusion or method? No, not really, but I also can't fault him for it. I use my 'gut' to assess people based on what they say, why should I find it very suspicious that dedo does much the same. Therefore, I can't condone what I see as a very slim reason for voting someone. Especially seeing as that someone already had quite a few votes to their name.

Lastly, Ixam makes a somewhat logical statement, saying that he believes the train has stopped because either all the scum are on it or the person being voted for is scum. While I do not work by such delineations, as the train could have stopped for many other reasons, I can see where he's coming from. He then rather spoils it by stating that he believes that scum could be hiding in the 2nd or 3rd spots on the wagon, and names JMich and Krypsyn in particular, but then refuses to bring up any case against them, instead stating,"I'm not sure I want to poke the big bears." Well, if you've got some sort of accusation to make or suspicion to air, for the love of Zeus, do it, man.

Perhaps I am being slightly unfair in some instances, but I can't but help feel that there is some connection between the manner in which Ixam is acting this game (I would describe it as a little loopy) and how he acted last game.