This is also a viable option and I totally like the sound of it as it adds more to the game.
I think you will do it regardless of what you said here. :P You're just that twisted. xD

True, I blame lack of sleep for my failing memory. But you sure we didn't give you play advice during game #22? Neither on Day 1, nor after it ended?

Which game was that? #23 or #22?

More than sure.

High School Drama was game #23.

Yeah. In that game Mrk and flub claimed on day 1 iirc. I was opposed to the idea and got lynched. Don't you remember? I didn't even want to claim. I don't remember who else, if anyone, claimed during day 1, but by the end of the second day more than half of the players claimed.

I think you're the own displaying selective memory now, Day 1 in the high school game only flub and mrk claimed and that was because claiming day 1 is one of the very valid tactics for masons. You got lynched not because you opposed this, but because you hinted at having extra info no one else had but then didn't reveal why or how you knew it.
By day two, if I remember correctly, Sage and dedo claimed and I (foolishly) dropped a hint I had a role. CSPVG claimed under lynch pressure and I believe that left only the scum unclaimed.

I don't really like this picking on Bookwyrm just because he happened to read the beginners guides and is maybe trying to play by the book a bit because it's his first game. It could be a scum play to just cover any odd behaviour up by saying he's new, but remember where that got us last game with ddickinson? She flipped town in the end.

I stated "if any" in my previous post, and by the end of day 2 there were a ton of claims.

Riddle me this, how is this any different from the fact that my info was related to my role? Claim lovers and then what? I was simply against both claiming and revealing info that was damaging. People were just too stuck up to listen.

Yes, in game #23 the last 3 players with unclaimed roles were scum.

I am not picking on anyone. Maybe on just the fact that he follows a guide and could lead us to disaster. Should I remind you that he advocated lynching lurkers just because it said in a guide? Nothing wrong with that, but when you have 3 posts pushing for that I'm done.

Take it this way: From what I skimmed through that guide, since I didn't have the patience to read it, quite a few regular players here would always be under extra suspicion just because of their playstyles.
I'll do a short read of that guide later, but I am fairly confident the guide addresses only ideal situations in which the players are all based on the same template.

Haven't fully caught up yet, but going to answer this here...

My reading of Dedo's reason for thinking bookwyrm Town was completely wrong.

My PM does NOT say the word Loyalist either.

I won't reveal my reasons for thinking Bookwyrm is town - other people may give the same tell. Its definitely not a sure fire tell, but it does give some indication I think.

@Ix - if me and dedo were scumbuddies, you really think we would come up with something like this on Day 1? If this is anything like a normal game, Mafia would not have had time to talk to each other yet.

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Ah, so two claims by end of Day 1 make it a role claim fest. Like we had last game?

Either way, thank you for jogging my memory, it could use the exercise.

You're not wrong at all. I'm not a fan of meta-gaming and using previous games too much, but doesn't mean I will pass on things that may be clues.

Thank you for your insights, though. This is what I actually like to see, not just "let's talk and find them scum" :)



I already shared my reason for having Robb leaning Town. That along with your weird vote placing makes me not put you in the same category as him.


In my defense I want to note that I didn't start asking around what people have in their PMs. Wyrm slipped a [unintentional] hint, I picked it up and went from there. Nothing more. On the "skimming through your PM" I suggest you to contact JMich. He doesn't seem to be fond of such things and may have a beef with you because of that.


Fight fire with fire! No, that's not right. Fight WIFOM with WIFOM. Yeah, that's better.



We (some of us, anyway) already established that's not the exact wording, but close and specific enough to make the connection. I guess this takes a bit more of your points in my book, but it doesn't completely negate my read on you.

1) Doesn't look like I'm leading anyone anywhere, at least from where I'm sitting. But that is a minor point.

2) Hijack, you are missing (deliberately?) two different pieces of context from that very post you are so concerned about. 1) "Look for a reason [to vote for someone]" (bolding added here, and I added the assumed end of the sentence), and 2) "Lacking any other leads, selecting a lurker to vote for would be decent play" (bolding added here).

I didn't say it was an amazingly good idea, and I didn't say to lynch a lurker above all else. I said that if one has nothing else to go on, then hey, maybe a lurker is a good target. Notice that I didn't vote for anyone that seems to be real quiet recently (Sage, CSVPG), I voted for someone that is being active. I have something I think is even better than just selecting a lurker. Someone keeps taking the posts of someone else, misrepresenting them, and then accusing the first player of scum behavior based on the misrepresentation.

For comparison purposes, JMich is making dedo squirm by using dedo's actual words.

In HS I am not sure everyone did claim on day one. But I could be wrong as I have not gone back and looked.

Please ignore the my post above - I posted before I read down.
Bold is my doing.

Did Wyn ever come out and say whether this was intentional or not? If so please point me to the post as I must have missed it.

But who says it has to be a huge number of people claiming day 1? It was a huge number of people claiming consequently day 2, very soon in the day might I add, after flub and mrk claimed, thus it was a claim-fest.

You went from jogging with memory to juggling with words and discussing semantics and challenging definitions.

Question: What is the purpose of this discussion again? I got it at first you were wrong in your memory, but you continued on a path that only seems to be filler to the situation at hand.

Let's talk and find the scum.