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I can honestly say I'm town and Loyalist is not in my PM. Is the word loyal yes, but then again why play the PM game when it's supposed to be a mafia game.

I'll leave my vote where it is just because.
That was it?

I don't see how that provides any kind of proof of anything.
1) I'm town and my PM doesn't contain the word
and two, perhaps more importantly:
2) How do you know scum PMs don't also use that word to refer to the town faction?

For all we know Bookwyrm's PM tells him to eliminate all the loyalists so he can achieve his goal, so in his first post he used the word to describe himself as town.
For all we know your PM does something similar and you decided to take a risk and buy yourself some town points.

For know my repeated rereads has Bookwyrm as town leaning for me, but I don't believe this exonerates him as comfirmed town in any way.

As for a vote, I'm still not really sure. I think our scum may be lurking in the shadows letting town destroy itself.. I'll be having a proper look later to see who has sat out this whole discussion and if that leads me anywhere.
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flubbucket: However looking for town tells is also a powerful tool to use to scum hunt.
While I agree in general, I don't think this 'tell' is quite up to snuff.

We have 4 reasonable scenarios:
1) Bookwyrm627 is town, and used a word from his PM. Only pro-town players noticed the word (from their PM, or common sense).
2) Bookwyrm627 is town, and used a word from his PM. Anyone could have noticed the word (from their PM, or common sense).
3) Bookwyrm627 is scum, and used a word from his PM. Only pro-town players noticed the word (from their PM, or common sense).
4) Bookwyrm627 is scum, and used a word from his PM. Anyone could have noticed the word (from their PM, or common sense).

I don't think it could be either 1) or 3), because I think it was too obvious to be missed. The word was in the very first post of the game, in it's own sentence apart from the rest, and the post was very short.

That leaves 2) and 4), which I think are equally likely, all else equal. However, from the rest of his posting, I have Bookwyrm627 as leaning town.
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trentonlf: I can honestly say I'm town and Loyalist is not in my PM. Is the word loyal yes, but then again why play the PM game when it's supposed to be a mafia game.
I'm on board with this.

In fact, I find the whole "guess the content of Mod PM" so metagaming and not in the spirit of the game that I'm going to

Unvote Robbeasy

Vote dedoporno
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trentonlf: I can honestly say I'm town and Loyalist is not in my PM. Is the word loyal yes, but then again why play the PM game when it's supposed to be a mafia game.

I'll leave my vote where it is just because.
I will remove mine, though.

unvote trentonlf

I won't add Books in my original list of suspects just yet, but he has been on his way there and still going.
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Ixamyakxim: I'm on board with this.

In fact, I find the whole "guess the content of Mod PM" so metagaming and not in the spirit of the game that I'm going to

Unvote Robbeasy

Vote dedoporno
You vote placing reasons continue to amaze me.
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dedoporno: You vote placing reasons continue to amaze me.
My physic connection keeps coming up with nothing!
"Psychic"... dang it no edits!

(waits for 10 minutes)

Simple typos... okay... fine. But that is just crazy. What is a physic connection? Let me find something...

Oh, it is a documentary. Well, that's... yay?
And, a dozen more rereads later I have... exactly zilch.

Upon closer inspection no one really sat out the last discussion, bar Twilight (who said they are away) and Sage, who as yet doesn't come across as scummy to me.

While I don't really like how dedo want about it, or agree with his conclusions over the whole Bookwyrm thing I don't really see him as scum. trent is scummy(ish) but again not leaning too far that way. And I'm not seeing much from anyone else that isn't just their normal behaviour and/or normal behaviour in general.

Except for my top two scummiest players Krypsyn and Ix. Both are fairly random in behaviour and voting. I'd say I'd be happy to vote on either if it comes down to it, but I'm not ready to start a proper wagon on either of them yet as I'm not sure we're done for the day yet...
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JMich: And concerning post 304, I didn't think your memory was that bad. Do recall back to your first game, and to the advice other people were giving you. You did decide to ignore said advice and go your own way from what I recall, and wasn't that the game you lost?
Do me a favor and re-read game #22. I don't think you remember correctly.
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HijacK: Do me a favor and re-read game #22. I don't think you remember correctly.
Wasn't 22 your first game? Or was 21 your first?
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HijacK: Do me a favor and re-read game #22. I don't think you remember correctly.
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JMich: Wasn't 22 your first game? Or was 21 your first?
Which ever one was the werewolf game
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trentonlf: Which ever one was the werewolf game
Werewolves were game #22 - ask me how I knew that ;) Oh, wait you know why!
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adaliabooks: I'd say I'd be happy to vote on either if it comes down to it, but I'm not ready to start a proper wagon on either of them yet as I'm not sure we're done for the day yet...
So, you would rather wait until the last minute to place your vote, when things get hectic and discussion is necessarily truncated?

I am, of course, a loyalist, etc. etc. etc.
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dedoporno: Interesting choice of words. People usually will refer to themselves as Town, townie or other such derivatives. "Loyalist" is oddly specific. Especially when it's not part of the OP. What is part of is my own PM (and I'm guessing everyone who is a Clear Sky operative).
Not very interesting at all. Went back and checked my PM. The word "loyalist" isn't itself there, but the word "loyal" is and it appears to be a basic template introduction to PMs. Nothing to indicate it is faction specific. Scum PM may very well begin with the name introduction and simply have different names up to a certain point where the role explanation beings.

Also, I "usually push aggressively" is a pile of crap argument. Should I remind you of the Space Opera game? Go and re-read the beginning of that.

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JMich: Wasn't 22 your first game? Or was 21 your first?
Unless I suddenly went wipe-mode with the memory of the Werewolf game number and was mistaken all these months about it, I'm fairly certain it's 22.