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Posted September 09, 2015
[EDIT: September 9th, 2pm GMT]

Update 1.1 to the GOG Galaxy beta is now available for everyone! Enjoy the new features and remember to submit your feedback in the dedicated GOG Galaxy Beta forum thread and report any bugs at mantis.gog.com.


Rollback, friend search, pausing downloads, and more in the biggest update yet.

Have you tried the GOG Galaxy beta yet? This is an awesome chance to jump on board. Our DRM-free online gaming platform has already been tested by so many of you we can barely count, and today we're ready to roll out the first major patch with new features and plenty of quality of life optimizations.

Update 1.1 to the GOG Galaxy beta will bring the anticipated Rollback feature, allowing you to restore your game to prior states with just a single click. Game updates are now not only optional, but also reversible.

The weeks following our GOG Galaxy-powered release of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt were a chance for the team to collect feedback and to work on perfecting the Client while addressing many of your top feature requests. The newest 1.1 update includes much-requested improvements to the friend system (making it easier to find and invite friends), pausing & resuming downloads, extended pre-installation options with more ways to configure your games, and an improved app UI and navigation. The entire client will now be more resource-friendly while also becoming faster.

The 1.1 update is available today for everyone enrolled to receive preview updates through GOG Galaxy, but it will also be rolling out very soon to the entire userbase. Those of you eager to test out the announced improvements today, can simply navigate to your GOG Galaxy settings screen and select the option to “Receive preview updates”.

To download the client and read about what’s new and improved in update 1.1, visit [url=http://www.gog.com/galaxy]www.gog.com/galaxy[/url]. Make sure to subscribe to the preview updates to try them out yourself, and as always, you can submit your problems and find new solutions on the dedicated GOG Galaxy Beta forum thread.
Posted September 11, 2015
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mkess: Unless I can catalogize and start any game with the client, I am no longer interested. Because I am searching for an universal game starter.
Windows Explorer? That's what I used when I still used Windows.
Posted September 11, 2015
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0Grapher: There are a few things I still don't understand.
Why did you call the new installers "pseudo-installers".
Why do you even bother demanding the return of tarballs if you couldn't give a single reason why they are better than Mojosetup?
And why do you still prefer tarballs after I've given you numerous (and not even all) reasons why they are a worse choice?
1. I called them pseudo-installers because "installing" the game leads to the exact same result as unpacking the tarball. You do get bells and whistles like desktop shortcuts and start menu icons though. I guess I'll stop calling it "pseudo-installer" then.

2. I never *demanded* the return of tarballs. I said I would welcome it.

3. OK, let's go over your numerous reasons again.

-- It is an installer, it can be run on non-debian based distros.
So can be tarballs.

-- It looks better.
Looks better is subjective. IMHO it looks terrible compared to the Windows installer.

-- It is simpler to use for new Linux users.
Yes, it probably is. Depends on whether you thinks it's easier to add 'execute' permission to the installer than to extract a tarball.

-- It looks more professional.
See "It looks better".

-- Every installation should now handle the same, which wasn't the case before.
See "It is an installer...".

-- The installation process of a tarball is not as straight-forward as of the new ones.
How is unpacking a tarball not straightforward?

-- In my opinion, it looks far better than the Windows installer and more professional because it's slick and Windows' looks like spam advertising. But, even if you don't agree. So what? It looks better than a tarball.
See "It looks better...". Windows installer doesn't look like *spam* advertising to me. It looks like a design team actually put a lot of work in it, compared to the Linux installer, which is just a bunch of ugly GTK? widgets with a pretty picture behind them.

-- No, that's just how you start it. If you want to install it you have to execute it with the comment -i (in a Terminal for example)
Why would I want to install it if it "just works" without installing? But if you want an icon on your desktop / in your start menu then I guess it makes sense.

-- Btw, not every game had a tarball and not every tarball was set up the same. Now, every Linux game should come with a setup file that works the same.
They could just make the tarball structure consistent across different games and replace deb-packages with tarballs.

Note, I'm not arguing against installers per se. I mentioned several times that I like Windows installer. If GOG can make Linux installer look and feel exactly the same as the Windows one I would happily use it. But I'd rather use tarballs than the Linux installer in its current form.

P.S. You forgot to mention one of the biggest advantages of installers - ease of applying patches.
Post edited September 11, 2015 by mazayus
Posted September 11, 2015
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mazayus: Looks better is subjective. IMHO it looks terrible compared to the Windows installer.
I don't think that's subjective because tarballs don't look at all.
Tarballs don't have a gui.
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mazayus: -- It is simpler to use for new Linux users.
Yes, it probably is. Depends on whether you thinks it's easier to add 'execute' permission to the installer than to extract a tarball.
I am sure that it's easier. You for one didn't even know that an installation function existed. (-i)
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mazayus: How is unpacking a tarball not straightforward?
You are the living proof because you didn't know how to install the game if it came with a tarball (-i).
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mazayus: Windows installer doesn't look like *spam* advertising to me. It looks like a design team actually put a lot of work in it, compared to the Linux installer, which is just a bunch of ugly GTK? widgets with a pretty picture behind them.
I don't like the advertising slide show on the Windows installer at all. I understand why it's there but normally if I have bought something I should have an option to avoid advertising and the width-to-height ratio reminds me of an advertising banner on the internet.
I don't like the design because the colours don't harmonize imo, there is not enough free space on the window, which makes it look cluttered. (Why do you think Apple products are successful? Because they have a design that's completely free of clutter.) In my opinion, the design is not good enough.
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mazayus: They could just make the tarball structure consistent across different games and replace deb-packages with tarballs.
Possibly, but I don't know why they didn't do it before. Maybe they weren't able to.
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mazayus: Note, I'm not arguing against installers per se. I mentioned several times that I like Windows installer. If GOG can make Linux installer look and feel exactly the same as the Windows one I would happily use it. But I'd rather use tarballs than the Linux installer in its current form.

P.S. You forgot to mention one of the biggest advantages of installers - ease of applying patches.
In my opinion, they have to offer an installer with their own gui on Linux. Without such an installer they seem far less professional, imo.
Post edited September 11, 2015 by 0Grapher
Posted September 11, 2015
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mazayus: Looks better is subjective. IMHO it looks terrible compared to the Windows installer.
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0Grapher: I don't think that's subjective because tarballs don't look at all.
Tarballs don't have a gui.
My comment still applies to the Windows installer.

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mazayus: -- It is simpler to use for new Linux users.
Yes, it probably is. Depends on whether you thinks it's easier to add 'execute' permission to the installer than to extract a tarball.
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0Grapher: I am sure that it's easier. You for one didn't even know that an installation function existed. (-i)
I don't see the connection between my comment and your reply.

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0Grapher: You for one didn't even know that an installation function existed. (-i)
You are the living proof because you didn't know how to install the game if it came with a tarball (-i).
It's a tarball. Of course I didn't know that an installation option exists. I don't need an installation option for a tarball. Extract, run the game, done.

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0Grapher: I don't like the advertising slide show on the Windows installer at all. I understand why it's there but normally if I have bought something I should have an option to avoid advertising and the width-to-height ratio reminds me of an advertising banner on the internet.
I don't like the design because the colours don't harmonize imo, there is not enough free space on the window, which makes it look cluttered. (Why do you think Apple products are successful? Because they have a design that's completely free of clutter.) In my opinion, the design is not good enough.
See? Completely subjective. You like the Linux installer, my eyes bleed when I look at it. You hate the Windows installer, I think it's the prettiest installer I've ever seen.

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0Grapher: In my opinion, they have to offer an installer with their own gui on Linux. Without such an installer they seem far less professional, imo.
Again, I don't mind the installer as long as it's well done. In this case, "well done" means Windows installer. At least for me. I don't think there's any point in arguing who's right and who's wrong because different people have different ideas of what is "well done" and what isn't.
Posted September 11, 2015
When will we finally be able to reduce the max download speed? That was the biggest reason I used the gog downloader until the very end. For me that's an absolute key feature since without it my internet connection is gimped as hell and unusable for stuff like streaming videos.
Posted September 11, 2015
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0Grapher: I don't think that's subjective because tarballs don't look at all.
Tarballs don't have a gui.
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mazayus: My comment still applies to the Windows installer.
And why do you keep comparing it to the Windows installer? My comment applied to the tarballs since I brought it up.
It doesn't matter if you think that it looks worse than a Windows installer.
Having a gui looks better than not having a gui and having to use your Terminal to access all functions.

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0Grapher: I am sure that it's easier. You for one didn't even know that an installation function existed. (-i)
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mazayus: I don't see the connection between my comment and your reply.
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0Grapher: You for one didn't even know that an installation function existed. (-i)
You are the living proof because you didn't know how to install the game if it came with a tarball (-i).
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mazayus: It's a tarball. Of course I didn't know that an installation option exists. I don't need an installation option for a tarball. Extract, run the game, done.
Let me explain it again. If you don't know how to initiate certain functions of an installer then the installer will not work as intended and thus has failed.

I've explained the point of these installers to you but I wonder what would be the point in keeping the tarballs. (It should be a reason that compensates for the extra work)
Post edited September 11, 2015 by 0Grapher
Posted September 11, 2015
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Duranoar: When will we finally be able to reduce the max download speed? That was the biggest reason I used the gog downloader until the very end. For me that's an absolute key feature since without it my internet connection is gimped as hell and unusable for stuff like streaming videos.
It's one of the wishes marked as "in progress" in Galaxy feature wishlist so at least they intend to implement it. Wether or not it'll make it to next big patch, only GOG knows. Even if it does, 1.1 took ~3 months to make so...
Posted September 11, 2015
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0Grapher: And why do you keep comparing it to the Windows installer? My comment applied to the tarballs since I brought it up.
It doesn't matter if you think that it looks worse than a Windows installer.
Having a gui looks better than not having a gui and having to use your Terminal to access all functions.

Let me explain it again. If you don't know how to initiate certain functions of an installer then the installer will not work as intended and thus has failed.

I've explained the point of these installers to you but I wonder what would be the point in keeping the tarballs. (It should be a reason that compensates for the extra work)
Tarball isn't an installer and there should be no installer inside the tarball. You don't need to use the terminal to extract a tarball. All major DEs have this functionality built in. I don't care if there's a script inside that pretends to be an installer as long as I can just extract and run the game. I have no idea why you keep insisting on using that script if the game "just works".
There's no reason to keep the tarballs if the installer is good enough, but it isn't (compared to the Windows one). Why do I keep comparing it to the Windows one? Because that's the alternative to the tarballs that I would like to see. For me it's currently "Windows installer" > "tarballs" > "Linux installer" > "deb-packages".

All of this I have already said earlier. So either I don't hear you or you don't hear me. In either case I don't see a point in continuing this discussion.
Posted September 11, 2015
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mazayus: Tarball isn't an installer and there should be no installer inside the tarball. You don't need to use the terminal to extract a tarball. All major DEs have this functionality built in. I don't care if there's a script inside that pretends to be an installer as long as I can just extract and run the game. I have no idea why you keep insisting on using that script if the game "just works".
Let me explain it again: If you are fine with not having desktop shortcuts, menu shortcuts and so on or creating them yourself that's fine.
The point is that you didn't decide against using the in-built function but you didn't know the function existed.
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mazayus: There's no reason to keep the tarballs if the installer is good enough, but it isn't (compared to the Windows one).
So, it isn't good enough because it doesn't look as good as the Windows installer?
And it isn't good enough because it doesn't look as good as tarballs, which don't look at all because they haven't got a gui? ...except the new installers have other advantages.
Are you sure that you even want your argument to be understood?
Posted September 11, 2015
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0Grapher: Are you sure that you even want your argument to be understood?
I surely don't want it to be twisted. Hence the last sentence in my previous comment.
Posted September 11, 2015
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mazayus: snip
The only reason why you would like to see an installer like the Windows installer is that you think the Linux installer looks a lot worse, do I understand that correctly?
Posted September 11, 2015
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eiii: Have you ever tried to download Galaxy on Linux by clicking at the advertisement banner? It's only there to taunt Linux users.
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Maighstir: http://cdn.gog.com/open/galaxy/client/setup_galaxy_1.1.2.124.exe
http://cdn.gog.com/open/galaxy/client/galaxy_client_1.1.2.120.pkg
Easily found through Linux, as seen in the attached image.
Of course I can download Galaxy on Linux with little effort. I mean the "official" way. GOG annoys me with an advertising banner for something which is not available for my system and which I cannot "officially" download. And the download page proves that they are able to detect my operating system. So why show the advertisement to Linux users at all?
Posted September 11, 2015
The Linux installer is hidden inside of the file. They don't explain how to get to it, how to use it or anything. Especially the dependencies to do so. So why leave it for people to do themselves, if there isn't even instructions on it that are 'clear' about how to do it now?

Before, there was a Tarball, and we could extract it and play the game. That was even better than this. The new one is not even close to the quality users get on Windows or Mac. The fact of the matter is, GOG doesn't care about Linux, not really. And anytime someone like me says things like this, people tend to turn it into an argument, because they either like to cause problems, make people angry - or are a child/man/child and like to argue that their operating system is best, which is equally retarded.

All I want is for the installer that Windows and Mac currently has, to be made available for Linux. The folks working on it aren't stupid, they can do it - but somewhere within the GOG business, things get delayed in a way that isn't practical, why I don't know. All I know is, they can make a Linux version of that software, and not taunt us to download something we can't actually download - they just don't currently care. Yet I own games here, I have a right to complain, just like anyone else. And just because someone might not like it, doesn't mean they can do anything about it.

I believe in standing up for something I consider right. Regardless of what the masses say or do. I'm not delicate, I'm passionate. There is a difference. And I've seen others that are growing a pair and saying something too and I can respect that.
Posted September 12, 2015
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Duranoar: When will we finally be able to reduce the max download speed? That was the biggest reason I used the gog downloader until the very end. For me that's an absolute key feature since without it my internet connection is gimped as hell and unusable for stuff like streaming videos.
I agree this will be nice when the feature is implemented. If you like, it's possible that your router supports QoS (bandwidth prioritization). If not there are software that will do the same.
Posted October 22, 2015
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