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Registered: Sep 2008

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Posted July 04, 2015

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Grooves: I will never, ever, use Galaxy. I came to GOG early on to get away from online clients like Steam and lookie here we now have GoG ramping up their own. It's NOT needed and certainly not wanted by me. Stop pouring money into development of this nonsense and use that cash to entice more dev's to put their games here. But wait, let me guess...those dev's WANT the client requirement because it cuts down some on piracy. Frankly, I think the entire Galaxy thing is a big screw you to the people that adopted you early on and helped you succeed all under the guise of this wonderfully ease to use client to manage your games and keep them easily updated!!!! Total bull. Their IS an agenda behind it.

I just want to download the games I purchase and play them. I don't want anything "helping" manage my titles.

You people better wake up because eventually this WILL replace being able to download your games and it will be required to install from galaxy. It may still be DRM-free but having a required client is not even close to what I want or will use.

And achievements? Really? WHO CARES. They are virtual rewards that literally LITERALLY mean nothing.

Again, stop wasting time and money on this. The premise of your business was great. Now you are getting mired in profiles and online play and achievements. That is NOT what this site was founded on. At all.

IDeivis: Client will help to get some publishers over to GOG.

Multiplayer games will be possible on galaxy.

Atm client isn't required in any way, of course only for those "useless" things you have listed.

Who knows maybe someday we will be forced to use Galaxy, but it's illogical. Why? Simple, if devs already agreed to let their games to be sold on GOG without galaxy restriction, then why would they change it? For new and coming titles, maybe, but most likely only for MP based games.

Then don't do business with the companies that won't put their games up DRM-free for download. Period. That is what this site was founded on. It's is ridiculous to walk away from what made you, even if it's just a little. Steam and it's ridiculously invasive DRM already exists. Putting games only into galaxy and not available to download outside of the galaxy client will destroy this site for many and make no mistake that IS where this is headed.

In the future there will be fewer and fewer games available for download and you will be locked into using the client and that is a joke. If you don't think that is the direction gog is headed with this you are crazy.

It's not okay to leave behind the business model we all came here for. Again, Steam already exists and will always be better than what GOG can offer in that arena. GOG will never have the money Valve has. So again, stop wasting valuable time and resources on this

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Registered: Sep 2008

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Posted July 04, 2015

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Grooves: I will never, ever, use Galaxy. I came to GOG early on to get away from online clients like Steam and lookie here we now have GoG ramping up their own. It's NOT needed and certainly not wanted by me. Stop pouring money into development of this nonsense and use that cash to entice more dev's to put their games here. But wait, let me guess...those dev's WANT the client requirement because it cuts down some on piracy. Frankly, I think the entire Galaxy thing is a big screw you to the people that adopted you early on and helped you succeed all under the guise of this wonderfully ease to use client to manage your games and keep them easily updated!!!! Total bull. Their IS an agenda behind it.

I just want to download the games I purchase and play them. I don't want anything "helping" manage my titles.

You people better wake up because eventually this WILL replace being able to download your games and it will be required to install from galaxy. It may still be DRM-free but having a required client is not even close to what I want or will use.

And achievements? Really? WHO CARES. They are virtual rewards that literally LITERALLY mean nothing.

Again, stop wasting time and money on this. The premise of your business was great. Now you are getting mired in profiles and online play and achievements. That is NOT what this site was founded on. At all.

skeletonbow: All of your comments are safely ignored as it is obvious that you just have personal assumptions about what Galaxy actually is and have not actually researched all of the facts. You're biased by your experience with other game distributor's clients and while it's a starting point basing thoughts on past experiences with similar software, without truly putting aside bias and investigating the facts with an open mind to seek out information and truth it ends up just turning into a burn the witch hunt.

GOG is creating Galaxy because not only do more people _actually_ care to have a gaming client than not, they also care to provide their customers what they want to have. Since it is completely optional and has absolutely nothing to do with DRM or preventing piracy whatsoever, as has been said 10 million times in the forums for close to two years now to people who make assumptions before researching their facts - you don't ever have to use it now or ever.

GOG isn't going to cancel a major project that the majority of not only their existing userbase does want, but that the majority of gamers that are not yet their customers also want - just because one person who doesn't even have a clue what Galaxy actually is bitches about it in the forums.

If you don't like it, then don't use it, or do whatever else you need to do to turn that frown upside down. Leave and never shop here again if that's what it takes, nobody will give a crap.

You can ignore what you want guy. I don't care what you do. I AM right. Galaxy WILL slowly replace the web links and that will kill GOG as we know it. Period. End of story.

I don't need your snarky advice on what to use and what not to use. Not everything is sunshine. It's clear you aren't mature enough yet to see that. Reality isn't always fun and happy. I can guarantee you GOG will care if I take my business elsewhere and they will certainly care when people realize they can just go back to steam. So frankly, go to hell.

A majority of their userbase doesn't want the client, they want GAMES. I assure you of that. What they should be focusing on is getting more games the GOG way. That is sound business. Spending untold amounts of hours and money on a client THAT ALREADY EXISTS is pure folly. Competition is not always good. GOG was competing with steam is the perfect way already. This is a stupid step in the wrong direction.

Sure, right now they are promising things such as offline play and downloading backups of your games. That won't last. Pure logic says so. Once dev's get even a hint that GOG is willing to lock their games into the client it will happen.

As for your ridiculous comment regarding me not knowing what it is...you have no clue who you are talking to. What is your degree in? What is your graduate degree in? What computer engineering college did you go to? You need to shut your arrogant mouth before you get embarrassed calling someone out like that. Galaxy isn't rocket science. In fact, it's the opposite. It's science for idiots like you stupid enough to beta test a product for them that will screw all of us in the end.

Do you want a prime example moron? Origin was strictly optional in the beginning and they promised that it would remain so. It didn't. It won't be optional in the end here either. So it is you who has no clue. Those of with sense do not want or need yet another client to manage things for us. I do however need a site that has games, new and old, for download DRM/CLIENT free. Oh wait, I have that now. I won't 5 years from now but I bet we have a galaxy client that games are locked into. Greed is the word now. They see $$$$ and know that they can get tons of it if they create a successful competitor to Steam. So please stop with that nonsense about building something the "userbase" wants. It's all about what the owners of GOG want and that is pure hard cash. There is nothing wrong with that but please try to be smart enough to see what is happening right in front of you before calling someone out.

Lastly, and this is the funniest part. Do you honestly think they are going to put all the effort into this "major project", as you call it, and then just make is optional forever? Are you daft? That isn't sound business. The worst part? People are not going to abandon their steam accounts. It's not going to happen. Most people I know have hundreds, if not thousands of dollars invested there. GOG doesn't have a chance with this and if people actually did leave Steam in large numbers for GOG Galaxy? Well, that would just speed up the requirement of the client because the publishers would demand it.

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Registered: Oct 2014

From Finland

Posted July 04, 2015

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skeletonbow: All of your comments are safely ignored as it is obvious that you just have personal assumptions about what Galaxy actually is and have not actually researched all of the facts. You're biased by your experience with other game distributor's clients and while it's a starting point basing thoughts on past experiences with similar software, without truly putting aside bias and investigating the facts with an open mind to seek out information and truth it ends up just turning into a burn the witch hunt.

GOG is creating Galaxy because not only do more people _actually_ care to have a gaming client than not, they also care to provide their customers what they want to have. Since it is completely optional and has absolutely nothing to do with DRM or preventing piracy whatsoever, as has been said 10 million times in the forums for close to two years now to people who make assumptions before researching their facts - you don't ever have to use it now or ever.

GOG isn't going to cancel a major project that the majority of not only their existing userbase does want, but that the majority of gamers that are not yet their customers also want - just because one person who doesn't even have a clue what Galaxy actually is bitches about it in the forums.

If you don't like it, then don't use it, or do whatever else you need to do to turn that frown upside down. Leave and never shop here again if that's what it takes, nobody will give a crap.

Grooves: You can ignore what you want guy. I don't care what you do. I AM right. Galaxy WILL slowly replace the web links and that will kill GOG as we know it. Period. End of story.

I don't need your snarky advice on what to use and what not to use. Not everything is sunshine. It's clear you aren't mature enough yet to see that. Reality isn't always fun and happy. I can guarantee you GOG will care if I take my business elsewhere and they will certainly care when people realize they can just go back to steam. So frankly, go to hell.

A majority of their userbase doesn't want the client, they want GAMES. I assure you of that. What they should be focusing on is getting more games the GOG way. That is sound business. Spending untold amounts of hours and money on a client THAT ALREADY EXISTS is pure folly. Competition is not always good. GOG was competing with steam is the perfect way already. This is a stupid step in the wrong direction.

Sure, right now they are promising things such as offline play and downloading backups of your games. That won't last. Pure logic says so. Once dev's get even a hint that GOG is willing to lock their games into the client it will happen.

As for your ridiculous comment regarding me not knowing what it is...you have no clue who you are talking to. What is your degree in? What is your graduate degree in? What computer engineering college did you go to? You need to shut your arrogant mouth before you get embarrassed calling someone out like that. Galaxy isn't rocket science. In fact, it's the opposite. It's science for idiots like you stupid enough to beta test a product for them that will screw all of us in the end.

Do you want a prime example moron? Origin was strictly optional in the beginning and they promised that it would remain so. It didn't. It won't be optional in the end here either. So it is you who has no clue. Those of with sense do not want or need yet another client to manage things for us. I do however need a site that has games, new and old, for download DRM/CLIENT free. Oh wait, I have that now. I won't 5 years from now but I bet we have a galaxy client that games are locked into. Greed is the word now. They see $$$$ and know that they can get tons of it if they create a successful competitor to Steam. So please stop with that nonsense about building something the "userbase" wants. It's all about what the owners of GOG want and that is pure hard cash. There is nothing wrong with that but please try to be smart enough to see what is happening right in front of you before calling someone out.

Lastly, and this is the funniest part. Do you honestly think they are going to put all the effort into this "major project", as you call it, and then just make is optional forever? Are you daft? That isn't sound business. The worst part? People are not going to abandon their steam accounts. It's not going to happen. Most people I know have hundreds, if not thousands of dollars invested there. GOG doesn't have a chance with this and if people actually did leave Steam in large numbers for GOG Galaxy? Well, that would just speed up the requirement of the client because the publishers would demand it.

You are joking man!. Gog is better than Steam. Steam is horrible piece of DRM shit in this world. I installed a steam accidentally to my computer because of 2 games and I never install it again. Because of DRM like steam, i almost stopped playing PC games.Gog brings sense to the PC gaming.

Steam may have existed longer than GOG but DRM, game pricing and controlling/observing peoples gaming experience like Valve do, i am not accept it. Not to mention that some people in world have expected that Steam glient has some form of malware code. Steam is for money not a gaming!!

I better support GOG than steam.

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Registered: Jan 2012

From United States

Posted July 04, 2015

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Sorry for the interruption and possible redundant post (have not read all 39 pages), but I found a slight "inconvenience."

I re-installed win 7 and am now working on getting my machine back to normal. After re-installing Galaxy, I am now ensuring all my previously installed games are installed. As I am doing this, I noticed that when I get to the game at the bottom of the game in my current window space, the drop down menu disappears below the window. I can see the "Install" choice, but all other choices are "out of the window space."

Now, I can scroll down and have the pull down visible. But the bottom (last line of games on the page) of my library, I get the first 3 options and all others are hidden. Is there a way to "detect" the position and adjust the drop down to go "drop up?"

Back to the regularly scheduled argument :)9

Post edited July 04, 2015 by AlBQuirky

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Registered: Apr 2013

From Singapore

Posted July 04, 2015

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I got two problems:
1. Every update of the wicher 3 triggers an reinstalll of all DLC. that means i have toi enter my Administrator PW about 12 times.

2. What is GalaxyClient Helper.exe and why is it eating so mutch CPU?

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Registered: Mar 2009

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Posted July 04, 2015

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JustAbotherMe: 1. Every update of the wicher 3 triggers an reinstalll of all DLC. that means i have toi enter my Administrator PW about 12 times.

Already reported here: http://mantis.gog.com/view.php?id=2909

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Registered: Feb 2014

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Posted July 04, 2015

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JustAbotherMe: 2. What is GalaxyClient Helper.exe and why is it eating so mutch CPU?

Same for me according to task manager it is always around 25% CPU occupancy rate.
Seems weird to me.

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Registered: Jun 2011

From Poland

Posted July 04, 2015

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It depends on your OS config but for me what it does is eating more RAM than CPU, from 50 to 150. Perhaps it's used for all dynamic actions, caching tasks as buffer etc, It doesn't have clearing of it's own process from redundant data perfected yet.

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Registered: Sep 2012

From Poland

Posted July 04, 2015

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JustAbotherMe: 2. What is GalaxyClient Helper.exe and why is it eating so mutch CPU?

Motterman: Same for me according to task manager it is always around 25% CPU occupancy rate.
Seems weird to me.

Galaxy Client Helper is a process, which the Client uses for rendering it's UI. However, we're currently working on this matter - reducing resources needed by this process.

Post edited July 04, 2015 by Szulak

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Registered: Apr 2007

From Poland

Posted July 04, 2015

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JustAbotherMe: 2. What is GalaxyClient Helper.exe and why is it eating so mutch CPU?

Out of curiosity
1. how many games do you have installed in the Client?
2. do you see this high CPU usage when Client is completely idling (not downloading or importing anything, just sitting in the background)?
3. what OS are you using specifically (incl. version, SP) and what is your CPU?

I've just checked this on Windows 8.1 on Client v1.0.5.11 with 30+ games installed and when sitting peacefully in Library section I rarely see helper going above 1%... On OS X it's a bit different matter, but as Szulak mentioned above, this is one of the bigger things we're currently tackling :)

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Registered: May 2012

From Switzerland

Posted July 04, 2015

1950

dear gog, i know galaxy is still beta but:

it takes about 4 MINUTES(!!!) to fully load (from an ssd that is) (278 games, most installed, win7-64bit)

oh and it uses about 370MB of RAM while steam only uses 100MB...

@gog since the Helper is just the renderer & uses about 270MB, could we get rid of it while gog is minimized to the systray? i really need that memory while gaming...

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Registered: May 2013

From United States

Posted July 04, 2015

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shadow1980jpv: You are joking man!. Gog is better than Steam. Steam is horrible piece of DRM shit in this world. I installed a steam accidentally to my computer because of 2 games and I never install it again. Because of DRM like steam, i almost stopped playing PC games.Gog brings sense to the PC gaming.

Steam may have existed longer than GOG but DRM, game pricing and controlling/observing peoples gaming experience like Valve do, i am not accept it. Not to mention that some people in world have expected that Steam glient has some form of malware code. Steam is for money not a gaming!!

I better support GOG than steam.

Don't feed the trolls, that dude is clearly an idiot. You won't get anywhere. I just love those who know without a doubt that their right, that they know what a company is doing like they know something the rest of us don't... that they know a company that has staked there reputation on this being optional is lying. Rather than waist your time, just downvote him and move on. ;)

Post edited July 04, 2015 by BKGaming

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Registered: Jan 2013

From Poland

Posted July 04, 2015

1952

anyone else having problems with logging on gog galaxy?

edit
it connected, nevermind

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Posted July 04, 2015

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BKGaming: Game time tracking in windows is greyed out under settings because you can't disable it yet, but it should still work... are you signed in and connected online when you play? You are launching the games within Galaxy when you play?

Didn't even realize build 10162 was out, there release so fast now. Thanks. xD

Szulak: I've checked game tracking feature on our side, and it works correctly. It's not possible to disable specified feature yet - it's why a checkbox in Settings dialog is greyed out. Could you report this issue to mantis, please? We will take a look a deeper look. Have a nice weekend!

Yep, will do. Thanks for the reply :) Should I attach logs and if so, where do I find them? Program Data\GOG.com\Galaxy\logs?

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