FiatLux: First of all
I got NOTHING against kdgog but I still think that you are plain wrong in the way you comprehend his writing....
That's a perfectly valid opinion, don't let anyone tell you otherwise!
FiatLux: Surely I agree as far as that kdgog presents a somewhat "balanced and civil viewpoint!" however if thinking a little you will discover that it's all mostly the usual "I am so tolerant towards others" as long as I get it my way but that is not the problem with the "opposing" part.....
Problem is that it either builds on opposing just for the sake of opposing (where no need is) or by taking the wrong angle on stuff..
Well I'm glad that you agree with me that his dialogue was balanced and civil, but find it rather interesting that you then judge and criticize him for it. Very clever! Oh, and unexpected! Kind of like the
Spanish Inquisition, although maybe just slightly less clever. I can't completely decide though. Definitely in the same ballpark for sure.
FiatLux: So as far as I am concerned critique failed at that part
Also intriguing as I didn't really see any critique per se, but rather an expression of personal taste and opinion with some mild cynical tongue-in-cheek humour thrown in for good measure. I chuckled visualizing what he was saying and picturing him reacting to it. Definitely put a smile on my face.
FiatLux: Anyone SUPERFICIALLY reading this or really not understanding what is that I write or MY point could misunderstand this as a personal attack on "kdgog" which it is NOT !!!
Usually when someone prefixes something they are about to say with a statement like that it is usually a sign that they're about to do what they say they're not doing. :) Kind of like when someone says "I'm not a racist but ... <insert racist comment here>" or similar. But we don't know yet so lets not jump to any conclusions yet ...
FiatLux: However , I have been down this road many times , "kdgog" appear to be a somewhat typical "not that young user" that haves typically "not that young user" attitudes (besides the use of Facebook) and opinions... And that kind of user generally tends to focus on the "I don't like" (that seeing that "it's completely optional" so no need to make any fuzz over that...
IN FACT , I myself are not that young I for the greater part sympathize with what "kdgog" think and writes - only I am one of the "brainiacs" that came up with the "client" idea as "manager" in the first place as
A) I am lazy
and
B) I want GOG to become the norm and the WINNER , and while GOG might perhaps not be able to beat a place such as Steam because Steam has so many users and gained such momentum , then "ACCESSIBILITY" is a key word here as modern society makes people into "users" and for users it has to be easy like click a button like on Steam... So GOG needs to do the seemingly impossible , which is to cater to the present GOG CORE customers (which is guys such as "kdgog" and I ) while at the same time cater to people that is less computer savvy and people that needs stuff to be easy for them to be able to use it (personally I don't need stuff to be easy to access I just like if it is as it saves me work and time !!) ...
For someone you're not issuing personal attacks on and that you agree has a balanced and civil viewpoint, you sure appear to like to judge and criticize. But that's not a form of personal attack, no no no! :)
FiatLux: This post were born out of what I comprehends to be "skeletonbow's" glorification of "kdgog" 's post - a "glorification
I'm confused as it appears you can't seem to decide if you actually agree with him and respect his personal opinion or not. Your judgment and criticism does send an unclear mixed message though.
As he alluded to in his post, people can and do often lead to highly polarized views and argue and debate about it. That is also my own observation and it is rare that someone else recognizes that and points it out in the forums. I found it rather refreshing to see someone confident enough to not only express such an opinion here but to do it in a civil and intelligent manner. I hold no shame in sharing my opinion in responding to people who write things that are pleasant to read and which I find to be different (in a good way) from a fair amount of the often highly vitriolic polarized discussion that occurs in the forums fairly regularly.
That's the problem in online communities is that they're often not only highly polarized and uncivil towards each other, but they are very quick to criticize others and point out their flaws and disagree with them to a point sometimes where it looks like they are going out of their way to try to even find something to disagree with, but when people are actually civil with each other and express positive thoughts or praise each other someone will find a way to criticize them for that too, both illustrating and confirming the inherent polarization and general negativity/hostility present.
What I respect about kdgog's way of phrasing himself is that he was able to express his own preferences in what I consider a civil manner, but indicate that he recognizes the value in other people's needs as well and appears to respect them having the option to have things the way they'd like to have it. IMHO it isn't often that someone expresses themselves in the forums in this way because it essentially is in opposition to the all too common sense of entitlement mentality many people in the forums have and demonstrate regularly, and to speak out in a manner that embraces the opposite of that is to risk drawing the ire from those who have it and many people are either too afraid to put themselves in that position or simply wish to avoid any even remote possibility of conflict so they choose silence instead.
I'm not one of those people though. I've no fear of praising someone whom I think brings a valuable voice/viewpoint to a conversation whether I agree with them in part or full or not at all - if I think the manner in which they communicate with others is a civil improvement over a lot of how I see others communicating rather regularly.
If someone wants to criticize, judge or ridicule me for welcoming a net positive voice to a conversation well sobeit, but that wont stop me from sharing my opinion or praise if I see fit to do so, and it ultimately speaks tomes more about the person doing the judging and criticizing than anything negative about me.
If everyone tried to say something nice/kind even just once a day to someone else even whom they disagree with, or to avoid judging, criticizing, blaming, insulting or making demands on others more, the world would be a lot better place and on a lot better path. We all work better when we can work together and communicate civil with each other.
But if anyone feels hostile negative energy and the need to judge or criticize me for expressing any of the above, by all means go ahead whether it is an burning need and meant, or whether it is simply a joking form of humorous expression. It wont soil my mood, and I wont hold it against anyone in the future either. Life is too short! There's enough negative energy to probably solve the world's energy needs just in Youtube video comments alone. All we need is someone like Elon Musk to figure out how to tap into it. :)
