It is because I am obvi-town. Seriously, just look at me! I am just so freakin' town right now.

I honestly think you're wrong about both me and Kryps. Once because I know my alignment. Second because in spite of thinking Kryps is worth watching I don't think he is really scum. Nothing really related to meta. Just a feeling based on a couple of jumped votes. As noted, I didn't count him in the suckers that bit. Nonetheless, my calculations were wrong, so I need to re evaluate my plan. :D

To be frank, you aren't really pinging my scumdar to much either. You have duped me hard in the past, so I have to degrade you to firmly neutral. ;)

My vote on you is primarily because cristigale is pinging my scumdar hard. She clinched it with the "If you think I am scum, then why don't you vote for me!" statement. I have used that very line as scum in several games (not recently though). Perhaps I am extrapolating too much, but it is the read I have. Furthermore, she has grown fairly silent; it is her MO, but it still rubs me the wrong way. Since she, effectively, is at L-1 along with you, it would be nice to hear from her.

I already knew you weren't voting really for me. The reason I included you on the to watch list however is because when you voted for cristi and told you to vote for me instead since you want her lynched you hesitated, and only later you took action.

I'm feeling kind of solid about trent as scummy though. Not inherently sure about lift. That's kinda his MO, but he's trying too hard to justify a vote in a chance game. And CSPVG just bit it. His reason is purely gibberish. Like, I would've been cool with "I'll take my chances with HijacK." The reason he gave reeks of scumminess.

Well, looks like when I have an active social life, stuff actually happens in the game.

I don't think either Krypsyn or Hijack are scum. Don't really understand why Krypsyn is suspicious of me. From my perspective, we play very different games. The fact that I said something which Krypsyn says he used as scum in a previous game does not equate with me being scum. If I wanted to behave like Krypsyn I'd say "Heh" all the time and make vague references.

This will probably get us lynched, but I agreed with Lift's initial assessment on drealmer. He seems unusually tentative in this game and see that as a possible scum tell. I don't see any benefit of me moving my vote there now.

My original vote on trent was mostly rvs. An early comment raised on eyebrow, but I think I over reacted on that point. If I had to pick a number two suspect it would be trent, so I'm OK with the vote being there. That's based mainly on gut, no one post to point to.

If you lynch us and Hijack is indeed town, please take a hard look at the wagon.

Heh.

You also forgot to mention that I like to vote early and often. I think that is the most important part, actually.

I think you should do it anyway.

You suspect drealmer7, why?

I'm tentative because if we make a mistake and kill a town+town couple, we're that much worse off, and with only 8 players, we should be being tentative, shouldn't we? Plus I haven't had as much time to dedicate and focus on the game as I would like so I'm probably appearing more tentative than I actually am. BUT I AM TENTATIVE. Would you rather us be like krypsyn and jump votes willy-nilly and see if they stick/accumulate followers? I don't understand how tentativeness is scummy. You deserve a re-read...heck, I have time, let me do a more thorough of a re-read...

*re-reads*...

With how lift came at me I feel quite confident that he is town. Trentonlf seems very town. CSPVG seems questionable but hasn't participated enough to get a good feeling either way, and I have no experience with them in other games (or on the forums much at all.) So it's hard for me to tell, but I'm leaning scummy for him IF somehow hijack + cristigale are both town (honestly, I highly doubt they're both town.)

Trent, how do you feel about your lover?

JMich was pinging all sorts of scumdar on my re-read.

Cristigale seems more scummy on my re-read where at first wasn't seeming scummy at all. I feel like paranoia is setting in!!!

So, after my re-read the only 4 even appearing scummy at any points are:

Krypsyn
JMich
Cristigale
CSPVG

HijacK just does NOT seem scummy, if he is scum, he's playing town very well. The angle that he becomes scummy is not a comfortable one for me at all. No one else seems scummy at all other than those 4.

Interesting indeed. With that I want to:

unvote krypsyn

and

vote hijack

I'm kind of at a loss. I hate voting for someone who doesn't even ping scummy, but yes, we're voting for the pair/cristigale via hijack and since neither JMich or Krypsyn seem to be tickling anyone else's bits, and obviously they both can't be scum, we'll go this route and see where it gets us come tomorrow. I think we've got a good lynch here (hence why I'm comfortable voting), even if it is to the wrong target and formed rather oddly.

Did I say that? I don't think I said that. Doesn't mean it isn't true, though. ;)

To answer your question: Why not? Quite irrelevant now, though, since drealmer7 has hammered.

Shame.

When reading back I see you were often encouraging others to vote him, was just wondering what you saw.

a chance to get votes to pile on me and lynch a townie, is what I think he saw. He's so obvi-scum, IMO. Don't be surprised if cristigale flips scum and kryps is scum too hence pushing for the wagon. I was thinking it was him and HijacK, but, now I think it could be him and cristigale, using that theory that I mentioned earlier of "well it's unlikely both of us will live through it so let's use that to our advantage to try and secure the win." I think kryps is that kind of player, and the apparent contention between he and cristi is staged.

Lift I believe

You are funny.

I did vote for drealmer7 when Lifthrasil was voting for him, then removed my vote as soon as he removed his. Is that what you are talking about?

If I did try to convince him to vote for drealmer7 more overtly, then I have forgotten about it already. It does seem like the sort of thing I might do though, so I can't dismiss your accusation as totally out of hand.