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Well, I know that this topic can culminate in the anger of many people, since one of the requests of the community with more prominence is precisely the possibility of obtaining achievements in offline mode, but before any action of this type, please allow me to explain my point. OK?

As connoisseur of achievements, one of the things that made me give up that way on Steam was precisely the smallest value they had. Any collection of achievements on Steam will understand why I say this.

The ability to get offline achievements in Steam games is great. Okay. However, this feature eventually allowed the creation of a completely harmful program to the community of conquest collectors, namely the famous "SAM", a program that allows you, by a simple click, to unlock any achievement, from any game.

This is done offline, so that Steam's security system can not detect it. Afterwards, just close the program and reconnect, and the unlocked achievement will be obtained as legitimately.

During the last few years, Valve has not taken any kind of measure to stop the performance of this method. On the contrary, he kept silent, only issuing one or other warning that using third-party programs could lead to account banning, and this may even occur, but only if the user is online.

This disgusting situation eventually scared off many achievement hunters, since the effort to make certain achievements no longer made sense, since any user, using the above-mentioned procedure, could do without any effort, and stay in on an equal footing with those who struggled.

There are hundreds of discussions on the internet about all this, and what's more in these conversations, news or articles is precisely the discouragement of the community of achievement hunters about this situation that lingers for years on Steam.

In the light of all that I have narrated, it is clear that allowing the achievement of offline achievements is a huge risk for an eventual contamination of GOG by this type of practice. It's the last thing someone like me, and thousands of others, would like it to happen.

Yes, I also think that getting offline achievements would be great, as it is on Steam, the problem is the onus we would reap.

Unless the GOG team has some sort of mechanism that can curb this type of practice by implementing offline achievements, I am sorry to say that this request would be the worst possible for those who like to collect achievements and see it as a pleasurable competition. clean.

I hope everyone can put their views on this topic. My goal is to problematize this question.

Please, agreeing or disagreeing, participate in this conversation, but in a healthy and purposeful manner.
I hope you have understood my point, and thank you for your understanding and participation.
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Aren't you overreacting?
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Why would anyone care if others get their achievements cheating their way through them? Achievements are there mostly for a personal challenge and (for some, let's face it) bragging value.

I see little reason to... "punish" offline players from achievement tracking.

Let's say that I am an achievement hunter that doesn't want to show online for whatever reason, and Galaxy doesn't allow to hide me, so I play the games offline and merely log into Galaxy for achievement update/tracking.

That is stripped from me because someone, somewhere, is pissed about someone else getting achievements without breaking a sweat instead of following the path of thorns that they followed.

Why would you care? They are your achievements, not theirs.

No offense, but seems kind of dumb: little to no repercussion on "contaminating" users, but certain repercussions on actual achievement hunters forcing an online connection for tracking at the moment of obtention.

Is there even a "SAM" for Galaxy achievements? No reason to worry about such things if they don't even exist.
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Buttspikes: Why would anyone care if others get their achievements cheating their way through them? Achievements are there mostly for a personal challenge and (for some, let's face it) bragging value.

I see little reason to... "punish" offline players from achievement tracking.

Let's say that I am an achievement hunter that doesn't want to show online for whatever reason, and Galaxy doesn't allow to hide me, so I play the games offline and merely log into Galaxy for achievement update/tracking.

That is stripped from me because someone, somewhere, is pissed about someone else getting achievements without breaking a sweat instead of following the path of thorns that they followed.

Why would you care? They are your achievements, not theirs.

No offense, but seems kind of dumb: little to no repercussion on "contaminating" users, but certain repercussions on actual achievement hunters forcing an online connection for tracking at the moment of obtention.

Is there even a "SAM" for Galaxy achievements? No reason to worry about such things if they don't even exist.
You see, here we are entering other terrain. It seems to me that you are not a achievement hunter, which is not a problem. Your opinion is more than valid and I respect it. However, any achievement hunter is uncomfortable with this situation, and what is the system of conquest if not healthy competition and clean among the players?

Regarding your final opinion, it is clear that there is no SAM-shaped program for the Galaxy. There is no such thing as one if the Galaxy does not allow for offline achievements. That is precisely the point of my topic.
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Who the hell cares about achivements?
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achievements of offline achievements
huh!?

This reminds me of a sign I saw the other day:
"Don't Stop Letting People Not Help"
Post edited June 09, 2019 by tinyE
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Patias: However, any achievement hunter is uncomfortable with this situation
Not really. I'm an achievement hunter but don't really care.
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tinyE: achievements of offline achievements
huh!?

This reminds me of a sign I saw the other day:
"Don't Stop Letting People Not Help"
It was a typo with the broker. =(
Post edited June 09, 2019 by Patias
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Buttspikes: Why would anyone care if others get their achievements cheating their way through them? Achievements are there mostly for a personal challenge and (for some, let's face it) bragging value.

I see little reason to... "punish" offline players from achievement tracking.

Let's say that I am an achievement hunter that doesn't want to show online for whatever reason, and Galaxy doesn't allow to hide me, so I play the games offline and merely log into Galaxy for achievement update/tracking.

That is stripped from me because someone, somewhere, is pissed about someone else getting achievements without breaking a sweat instead of following the path of thorns that they followed.

Why would you care? They are your achievements, not theirs.

No offense, but seems kind of dumb: little to no repercussion on "contaminating" users, but certain repercussions on actual achievement hunters forcing an online connection for tracking at the moment of obtention.

Is there even a "SAM" for Galaxy achievements? No reason to worry about such things if they don't even exist.
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Patias: You see, here we are entering other terrain. It seems to me that you are not a achievement hunter, which is not a problem. Your opinion is more than valid and I respect it. However, any achievement hunter is uncomfortable with this situation, and what is the system of conquest if not healthy competition and clean among the players?

Regarding your final opinion, it is clear that there is no SAM-shaped program for the Galaxy. There is no such thing as one if the Galaxy does not allow for offline achievements. That is precisely the point of my topic.
So you´re hunting for the achievements solely to compare with others?
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Patias: You see, here we are entering other terrain. It seems to me that you are not a achievement hunter, which is not a problem. Your opinion is more than valid and I respect it. However, any achievement hunter is uncomfortable with this situation, and what is the system of conquest if not healthy competition and clean among the players?

Regarding your final opinion, it is clear that there is no SAM-shaped program for the Galaxy. There is no such thing as one if the Galaxy does not allow for offline achievements. That is precisely the point of my topic.
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engel666sk: So you´re hunting for the achievements solely to compare with others?
No, it was just an example. Particularly I do not do this, but most of the people who like the system, yes.
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engel666sk: So you´re hunting for the achievements solely to compare with others?
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Patias: No, it was just an example. Particularly I do not do this, but most of the people who like the system, yes.
Ah ok. But i don´t think you have to worry too much. GoG is not as big as Steam so even programming a software as SAM on Steam would be interesting for people.
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Patias: No, it was just an example. Particularly I do not do this, but most of the people who like the system, yes.
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engel666sk: Ah ok. But i don´t think you have to worry too much. GoG is not as big as Steam so even programming a software as SAM on Steam would be interesting for people.
You have a good point, Engel.
It almost seems like that would go into implementing DRM territory.

The appeal that achievements have had for me is when they issue a challenge for something tough that I would either overlook or not think to do.

I can understand the concerns of others not wanting to "cheapen" it by having others use this childish "SAM" thing, but at the same time implementing copy protection to prevent it would seem to go against what GOG is allegedly about.

Also, I could really care less what other people do with their toys.
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wow, someone "steals" achievements.

what a tragedy.
The only value achievements have is what you place on them yourself. It doesn't matter if other people "cheat", if you care about achievements then the only thing that matters is you knowing that you did it yourself.